"easy" class to learn?

[Pwellzor]

How could you recommend any melee to him? Are you all crazy? Staying in a 5 y range when everything is jumping around you and nuking you from save distance is so frustrating ... BGs and RBGS = avoid melee. Arenas you can try them out, but you are not interesting about arenas, aren't you?
Pick up Hunter, caster or any healer. With healer you can make some mistakes and still do ok job. If you really insist to be a melee, then go for a Arms Wariior. But as a Warrior you will have to change stances like every 5 seconds and you will never be sure, if you are in a wright stance:P Battle or Berserker one? Should I go in Defensive stance for a while and drop all my dmg, or risk and stay in Bers or even Battle one ...

Just stay in dstance. you should never be in berserker, ever. like ever ever. if you feel like you're never being trained, go battle.

Man that was hard.

(we're talking about pvp btw in case someone wants talk talk about standing in fire in berserker.)

[gestapo]

I think a lot of people are losing sight of what the OP is asking:

I'm new to pvp and like to try it out. Have played wow long though so i have all classes except druid and warlock at 90.
Which class is easiest to learn and to be decent at? I dont need to be really good, just decent is enough.
Not that found of casters but if they are easy to learn and play ok i might try that?
Pls advice.

I see people coming to defend what I'm guessing is the spec they play when someone else calls it 'easy'. The thing is it's not all that black and white, and you have to consider the difference between what the general consensus is on 'skill floor' and 'skill cap' or 'skill ceiling'.

When people say 'skill floor', they're talking about the point of entry at which the class becomes functional. If they say a class has a lower floor, that means it is easier to pick up and do decently with it.

The 'skill cap' is how high up in difficulty it is to play the class at it's best. That means master the class, and your toon becoming an extension of yourself. Some classes can have a low floor and still have a high cap. And for others it varies depending on spec.

I see people mention that rogue is easy. I hate rogues with a passion and i'd be the first person to claim they require no skill, but it's all relative. Rogues don't have that low of a skill floor, not as low as a Frost DK for example, but they have one of the highest skill caps. The same can be said of an affliction warlock. These classes bring a lot of utility and have a great many things they can do in a pvp setting. Watching someone play one at it's peak is a thing of beauty.

The consequence of a skill floor and skill cap of a spec/class is determined by the amount of utility they have and how varied it is. Frost DK's are generally considered to have a low floor because their role is most often nothing much more than a damage bot. When you change spec to Unholy you have more that you can do and that floor is suddenly higher. You look at something like a Shadow Priest or a Boomkin and their floor is probably the highest.

Finally, in answer to the OP - he mentioned that he's not that fond of casters. I'd say try a DK since you already have it at 90. Frost is really easy to pick up and you can have a ton of fun in BG's. You do die quite fast so you'll have to be aware of that, or just run with a healer. You can go Unholy and gain a great deal more survivability, but the skill floor is definitely higher.

Overall, I'd say go with an Arms warrior because their skill floor is low, they do obscene amounts of damage and they can take a beating with 25% DR in D-stance. Once you learn the class better you can venture into Arena if you choose to and you'll have a lot of team composition options. If you master the class you'll be feared.

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How could you recommend any melee to him? Are you all crazy? Staying in a 5 y range when everything is jumping around you and nuking you from save distance is so frustrating ... BGs and RBGS = avoid melee. Arenas you can try them out, but you are not interesting about arenas, aren't you?
Pick up Hunter, caster or any healer. With healer you can make some mistakes and still do ok job. If you really insist to be a melee, then go for a Arms Wariior. But as a Warrior you will have to change stances like every 5 seconds and you will never be sure, if you are in a wright stance:P Battle or Berserker one? Should I go in Defensive stance for a while and drop all my dmg, or risk and stay in Bers or even Battle one ...

Did you read the OP? He said he's not too fond of casters. The only exception I'd make is telling him to play a Hunter. Lowest ranged skill floor, but an insanely high skill cap.

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rogue is the highest skill capped melee. dont go rogue.

imo frost dk, warrior, bm hunter. for healer hpally is probably the easiest to learn

This is spot on.

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Frost DK. You dont need to learn your cooldowns, because you dont have any.

[Deleted]

Just stay in dstance. you should never be in berserker, ever. like ever ever. if you feel like you're never being trained, go battle.

And how do you dps, if you stay in defensive stance? Your dmg will drop for roughly 80%: no rage, no damage ... Better go with Protection, if you wanna pvp in defensive stance all the time, your dmg will be higher :P Defensive stance is only good, if you are beeing trained hard, wright?

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Frost DK is extremely easy to begin with, but it's a whole other level to master. Arms is by far the easiest to skill cap, regardless of what 1.8k MMR heroes will tell you.

It's also easy to get started with. DKs require far more than "smash to get 2000" in 2v2.

[Prag]

And how do you dps, if you stay in defensive stance? Your dmg will drop for roughly 80%: no rage, no damage ... Better go with Protection, if you wanna pvp in defensive stance all the time, your dmg will be higher :P Defensive stance is only good, if you are beeing trained hard, wright?

Have you ever PvP'd as a Warrior? Or at least in the last, say, 12 months?

[Thallidomaniac]

And how do you dps, if you stay in defensive stance? Your dmg will drop for roughly 80%: no rage, no damage ... Better go with Protection, if you wanna pvp in defensive stance all the time, your dmg will be higher :P Defensive stance is only good, if you are beeing trained hard, wright?

Prot Warriors have been garbage in PvP since the change in Cata to disable Vengeance from triggering from player damage.

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Have you ever PvP'd as a Warrior? Or at least in the last, say, 12 months?

Nope:P But I fight against them and I have one lvl 77 (Arms) and if i want to play in a Defensive stance, i only get 10 rage from Mortal Strike every 6 seconds + 1 every 3 seconds, and my dmg is like non existing. I can barely kill any mob. In battle or berserker i never have any problem with rage ...

[Deleted]

Nope:P But I fight against them and I have one lvl 77 (Arms) and if i want to play in a Defensive stance, i only get 10 rage from Mortal Strike every 6 seconds + 1 every 3 seconds, and my dmg is like non existing. I can barely kill any mob. In battle or berserker i never have any problem with rage ...

Pve is not the same as PvP.

[PPN]

Dont listen to the ppl who say rogue. Rogue is very hard to play properly... there is just to many options what you could possibly do and meet the right decisions for the right moment its really hard.

I also see ele suggestions. Ele is easy damage wise, but your CC is very limited so if you waste it you are fucked. Another thing...what kinda annoys me a little when i play ele is that basicly all comps will just sit on you and interrupt and beat the shit out of you, what can be pretty frustrating.

Just 2 opinions to chars i play

Cant say anything about warr/dk cause i never tried.

[Tavin]

Hunters, even top hunters are saying that it's an easy spec compared to other classes. Rogues, frost mages, warrior would be easy as well (basically pick any dps that's not a dot class)

[Bitethe]

Rogues are quite difficult. Hunters are easy, so are warriors. I find most heals pretty easy at the moment.

[Razorice]

As a DK I can say that Frost DK's are very easy to get into however if you want to play them 100% it's will require a bit of practice. Problem with us DK's (Especially Frost) is that we lack dmg reduction cooldowns, and running around with Blood Presence is just not fun (For me atleast).

[Senathor]

Enhance shaman are pretty easy too. My vote for easy melee is enhanced and frost dk. Both suffer from the same squishy problem.

And thats why hunter or warrior is a beter option right now.

[Prag]

Nope:P But I fight against them and I have one lvl 77 (Arms) and if i want to play in a Defensive stance, i only get 10 rage from Mortal Strike every 6 seconds + 1 every 3 seconds, and my dmg is like non existing. I can barely kill any mob. In battle or berserker i never have any problem with rage ...

It's totally different in PvP. Most high rated Arms Warriors right now use Def Stance unless there's some extremely odd circumstance where they know they aren't going to get swapped to.

Warriors in Defensive Stance are significantly more powerful than Frost DK's in Blood Presence.

[gestapo]

Should just end this thread with my post.

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faceroll easy: warrior and DK
middle ground: pala
hard: monk and rogue

I'd go with DK. Managed to get 2k in cata without knowing IBF removed stuns...

[Skarssen]

Nope:P But I fight against them and I have one lvl 77 (Arms) and if i want to play in a Defensive stance, i only get 10 rage from Mortal Strike every 6 seconds + 1 every 3 seconds, and my dmg is like non existing. I can barely kill any mob. In battle or berserker i never have any problem with rage ...

So basically you don't know anything about warrior PVP yet you are here offering your (nearly worthless) opinion.

Got it.

This goes for any post that starts with "from what I understand.....". That is a clear statement that you aren't sure, and are just speculating based on hearsay.

[DrMcNinja]

faceroll easy: warrior and DK
middle ground: pala
hard: monk and rogue

I'd go with DK. Managed to get 2k in cata without knowing IBF removed stuns...

Middle ground pala unless ret. It's so easy to kill a ret and I very rarely come across one that knows what he's doing other than the stun wings tunnel sequence

[roostah]

Actually, healer hasent even crossed my mind. Is it fun in bg's?