Transgender at 7, claims she knew it at 2.

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Playing with dolls as a male child, does not make you transgendered. That's the elephant in the room when you are talking about child gender. It does not make me uncomfortable that trans people exist, it's their prerogative. Having a child talk about their gender does make me feel uncomfortable, just like any time a child speaks on anything relating to sexuality. Children are not little adults...

What?

I said you shouldn't force them to play with stereotypical gendered toys, they should have free reign; I didn't imply a boy playing with a doll would make them trans...

And the child should be allowed to make the choice of what they want to do themselves, do they want to wear a skirt or a pair of jeans, makeup or gelled hair, so on so forth.

None of those things i suggested in the above is inherently making the child trans, it just lets them explore whatever they feel more comfortable in doing.

[GoldNSilence]

Nobody in the history of ever has listened to children seriously. If you do you're an idiot and if you think a child has the mental faculties to dictate and define their own gender / sexual preferences at a young age when they're extremely susceptible to conditioning and influence due to said young age you are literally retarded.

[CataclismicSunrise]

Who cares?

It's 2014, who honestly gives a shit? My best friend is tranny, and I knew her before he was she and became a she. Just... fucking get over it. Boo fucking hoo, whatever.

Go fuck yourselves.

Infracted - please be respectful towards others

[Kurioxan]

Most kids don't even now how to use a potty at 2.

I was already learning how to read!

Anyway, hmm this is one of those cases that im not entirely sure, also the thing is if you listen to interviews with the parents you start getting the impression that the parents wanted a girl and had a huge influence on the child.
Not entirely sure if this is a responsible course of action, can take decades for a person to be feel comfortable with who and what they are/n't, through a lot of experimentation and thought which a 2 year old hardly possesses.

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Who cares?

It's 2014, who honestly gives a shit? My best friend is tranny, and I knew her before she was he and became a she. Just... fucking get over it. Boo fucking hoo, whatever.

Go fuck yourselves.

Dont think this has anything to do with being a tranny or not, but whether the kid had capacity to decide something like that.

[Cthulhu 2020]

No one forces a gender on a child - they are born with it. It's not something they get to pick - you are either male or female (barring hermaphrodites). You are probably referring to sexuality, which is also given at birth based on sex/gender, but one may consciously decide to go against their natural inclinations for the opposite sex to partake in same-sex intercourse.

What if their natural inclinations are to go for someone of the same gender? Or are you one of those people who doesn't "believe" that people can be wired for homosexuality despite mountains of brain studies on the issue?

[Halyon]

Some kids are extremely perceptive and intelligent, but let's give it a few more years...

[Felya]

exactly. and this is how kids are reacting to that. they see that it is "okay" to be that way, so they...um.. convert i guess.

You are taking a giant leap to conversion, which makes no sense in the same way that establishing a base to be converted from makes no sense.

[Masark]

What if their natural inclinations are to go for someone of the same gender?

Impossible. Conservative thought says that's unnatural, so it can't be their natural inclination.

[Felya]

What if their natural inclinations are to go for someone of the same gender? Or are you one of those people who doesn't "believe" that people can be wired for homosexuality despite mountains of brain studies on the issue?

I'm one of the people who thinks children cannot comprehend sex. Gay, straight or anything you can imagine...

[LilSaihah]

I'm one of the people who thinks children cannot comprehend sex. Gay, straight or anything you can imagine...

What about like. Non-human sex. Do they go crazy if they see a couple dogs going at it?

[Felya]

Impossible. Conservative thought says that's unnatural, so it can't be their natural inclination.

It's unnatural for 7 year olds to be thinking about sex. It being straight or not is irrelevant... This has nothing to do with politics...

[potis]

Its not surprising.

I had a neighbor that was 1 year older than me and his feminine side was much much larger compared to his twin brother.

We knew he was gay by the time we understood what gay was..And when we recalled we realized we knew he was gay ever since he was like 6-8 years old.

He "came out" when he was like 17, and we were all "duh >_>".

Same with an old classmate from Elementary..I learnt like 10 years after that he was gay and we all went "Duh".

Some people are more obvious from a young age, some others arent.

[CataclismicSunrise]

I was already learning how to read!

Anyway, hmm this is one of those cases that im not entirely sure, also the thing is if you listen to interviews with the parents you start getting the impression that the parents wanted a girl and had a huge influence on the child.
Not entirely sure if this is a responsible course of action, can take decades for a person to be feel comfortable with who and what they aren't, through a lot of experimentation and thought which a 2 year old hardly possesses.

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Dont think this has anything to do with being a tranny or not, but whether the kid had capacity to decide something like that.

I can't think of it like that. Because it's personal. It become personal whether you like it or not. My best friend is tranny and it was a personal choice no matter what. It's a personal decision, fuck yourself to death whether you agree or not. We all make our own personal decisions in life whether we decide to live with it or not.

[Felya]

What about like. Non-human sex. Do they go crazy if they see a couple dogs going at it?

As a kid? I went 'crazy' seeing two squirrels doing it a couple of weeks ago. Ran around grabbing anyone I can find to show them the funny...

[LilSaihah]

As a kid? I went 'crazy' seeing two squirrels doing it a couple of weeks ago. Ran around grabbing anyone I can find to show them the funny...

well

yeah, yeah to be fair i'd probably do that too

[Kurioxan]

I can't think of it like that. Because it's personal. It become personal whether you like it or not. My best friend is tranny and it was a personal choice no matter what. It's a personal decision, fuck yourself to death whether you agree or not. We all make our own personal decisions in life whether we decide to live with it or not.

So much anger, so little understanding...
We all make decisions in our lives, that much is true, but our capability to make decisions and their permanency varies quite a lot depending on our age and the decision in question.

Your friend was likely far older than 2 when he decided to do it, with that I have no issues, what i wonder is how capable is a 2 year old of making such a choice, especially when you, again, listen to the interviews with the parents and it being quite clear they had quite a bit of pressure on the matter even if they dont realize it.

[Halyon]

It's unnatural for 7 year olds to be thinking about sex. It being straight or not is irrelevant... This has nothing to do with politics...

It has nothing to do with sex. Gender identification is gender identification, not sex. If the boy feels he's a girl trapped in a boys body, identifies more with girls than boys, and likes girls more than boys, that is gender identification. He might just be queer as they call it sometimes now, but what he says he is, is what he is. Or she.

[Felya]

well

yeah, yeah to be fair i'd probably do that too

I'm a kid trapped in an adult's body...

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It has nothing to do with sex. Gender identification is gender identification, not sex. If the boy feels he's a girl trapped in a boys body, identifies more with girls than boys, and likes girls more than boys, that is gender identification. He might just be queer as they call it sometimes now, but what he says he is, is what he is. Or she.

Tell that to the person I was responding to, who related it to homosexuality. Feel free to ignore the many posts I have made saying the two are not related...

You are also contradicting your self...

[Kurioxan]

I'm one of the people who thinks children cannot comprehend sex. Gay, straight or anything you can imagine...

Yes they can comprehend sex, this is purely a result of culture and puritanical ideas, while a child cannot give consent it still has sexual impulses since fairly early age (about...5?) its all part of the development. We just as a whole think of sex as "dirty" and dont want to associate children with it, doesnt mean they dont understand it or that the idea will traumatize them somehow.

[Deleted]

Hahaha, Pure BS at it finest...troll confirmed...