US strikes Iraq

[Colmadero]

http://news.msn.com/world/us-officia...kes-near-irbil

After Obama authorized air strikes yesterday, today was the first time they struck.

The US did this in self-defense as they are dropping supplies to a religious community under siege by Islamic extremists. The strike were performed in self-defense or so they claim.

Thoughts?

[Spectral]

I think nearly every Middle Eastern problem with remain essentially insoluble so long as Islam holds the sway that it does over so many.

[the game]

Shit happens

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Unfortunately Genocide might of occured. I'm not sure it would be a good idea to let it happen...again.

[Alvito]

Awful title. While I don't think the US should be getting involved they were asked to by the government there. It isn't like they declared war on country and started bombing them.

[Alvito]

I think nearly every Middle Eastern problem with remain essentially insoluble so long as Islam holds the sway that it does over so many.

Or the US keeps trying to topple leadership only to fight the people they put in power a decade or two down the line.

[Spectral]

Or the US keeps trying to topple leadership only to fight the people they put in power a decade or two down the line.

That sure doesn't seem to help anything, but I'm relatively sure that holy wars and genocides predate the existence of the United States by a nontrivial amount of time.

[Dispraise]

Or the US keeps trying to topple leadership only to fight the people they put in power a decade or two down the line.

Hey, I don't bug you about your hobbies.

[Verain]

Or the US keeps trying to topple leadership only to fight the people they put in power a decade or two down the line.

Like, there's some oddities in US foreign policy, but shit like this is trivially untrue.

Specifically here. The Iraqi prime minister is a divisive and generally untrusted fellow, but the US is not demanding he step down. Much more importantly, striking at ISIS is not striking at Iraq. The US has never funded or aided ISIS in any way, and wants Iraq to be free of them, and is providing assistance to the Iraqi government to this effect.

[Dezerte]

Even if it wasn't in self-defense (which I have no reason to believe), IS is a growing problem.

[Alvito]

That sure doesn't seem to help anything, but I'm relatively sure that holy wars and genocides predate the existence of the United States by a nontrivial amount of time.

The US certainly didn't invent it, they are doing way more then their part to keep it live and well though.

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The US has never funded or aided ISIS in any way, and wants Iraq to be free of them, and is providing assistance to the Iraqi government to this effect.

The sun also isn't made of water, Gore didn't invent the internet and I didn't say anything about the US funding ISIS. No shit they want Iraq to be free of them that is why they are bombing them.

[Spectral]

The US certainly didn't invent it, they are doing way more then their part to keep it live and well though.

Color me skeptical. I'm agnostic about the effects of American foreign policies, but the idea that if only Americans would knock it off, holy wars and genocide would be less common seems like wishful thinking at best. Conquest and violence are intimately tied to the history of Islam, and that predates the United States by a long ways.

[Anyael]

I think we will need to strongarm Maliki into signing a security agreement, the kind they refused to before we pulled out "for good".

[Druidjezus]

I think nearly every Middle Eastern problem with remain essentially insoluble so long as Islam holds the sway that it does over so many.

It's probably safe to say that as long as people are foolish enough to believe their god wants them to kill other people there will be horrible atrocities committed by religious fools.

Ironic how the two religions that commit the largest scale atrocities (Islam and Christianity) had founders that primarily preached peace and love....

Maybe they should preach war so we could have peace?

[Alvito]

Color me skeptical. I'm agnostic about the effects of American foreign policies, but the idea that if only Americans would knock it off, holy wars and genocide would be less common seems like wishful thinking at best. Conquest and violence are intimately tied to the history of Islam, and that predates the United States by a long ways.

If it did stop or didn't stop is slightly irrelevant. The US has plenty of problems here at home and can dump the billions we spend fucking up other nations to build up our own. If it is a cycle that just won't stop as you are saying let that wheel keep going and jump off the crazy train.

[Spectral]

If it did stop or didn't stop is slightly irrelevant. The US has plenty of problems here at home and can dump the billions we spend fucking up other nations to build up our own. If it is a cycle that just won't stop as you are saying let that wheel keep going and jump off the crazy train.

I have no desire to spend any of our resources on engaging in these pointless wars. I think you may have misread me.

[Valnoressa]

ISIS are religious zealots and monsters who have already been reported to be kidnapping women, beheading christians/other minorities and murdering/raping children. There's nothing to talk about when it comes to that, rain hell down on them America. You can't negotiate with animals like that and genocide is looking very much like the end game. I don't care what reason America chooses to justify it be it humanitarian or self defense, the only good ISIS is a dead ISIS.

And this is from a Brit with two serving brothers in Afghanistan at the moment.

[ldev]

What, again?

[Deleted]

I'm usually not in favor of bombing people to democracy but when it comes to wiping out ISIS ...

[Masark]

What, again?

Yes. I believe this is the 4th US President in a row to order airstrikes in Iraq.