[GUIDE] Mistweavers of Draenor: PvE Healing in [6.2]

[lanilani26]

Hey guys, I've been lurking for a while now and I wanted to let you all know how much I enjoy keeping up with this thread. I try to do the same for my Elemental Shaman but that thread has the opposite effect, everyone is so rude to one another. Hurray for Mistweavers \o/

[Supliftz]

I don't even use any Spirit trinkets on Flamebender unless you count Candle, and I don't OOM at all. Or any Spirit jewelry for that matter except legendary ring.

Flamebender probably wasn't the best example.

Better example would be thogar.

[Geodew]

Hey guys, I've been lurking for a while now and I wanted to let you all know how much I enjoy keeping up with this thread. I try to do the same for my Elemental Shaman but that thread has the opposite effect, everyone is so rude to one another. Hurray for Mistweavers \o/

Hah. Hooray! I do like the moderation here. Helps keep discussions on-track. Though sometimes flame wars can go for 2+ pages before a moderator sees it and steps in, which is unfortunate.

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Flamebender probably wasn't the best example.

Better example would be thogar.

Yeah, I use 1 spirit trinket on most fights, really. We have a pretty good Disc, though. Might depend a bit on that.

[cqwrteur]

Hah. Hooray! I do like the moderation here. Helps keep discussions on-track. Though sometimes flame wars can go for 2+ pages before a moderator sees it and steps in, which is unfortunate.

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Yeah, I use 1 spirit trinket on most fights, really. We have a pretty good Disc, though. Might depend a bit on that.

It seems no way to solve MW mana problem in WOD.

[Geodew]

It seems no way to solve MW mana problem in WOD.

There are plenty of ways. I suggested several like 10-40 pages ago

[vulena]

It seems no way to solve MW mana problem in WOD.

Lol what mana problem, always having way too much of it all the time?

[Ilir]

Lol what mana problem, always having way too much of it all the time?

That's the problem, yes.

[Geodew]

Infinite mana is boring. If RJW healed for 5 times more but cost 5 times more mana, you'd have to be a lot more careful about when to use it, which sounds hella fun. Engaging gameplay!

[Deleted]

Infinite mana is boring. If RJW healed for 5 times more but cost 5 times more mana, you'd have to be a lot more careful about when to use it, which sounds hella fun. Engaging gameplay!

Even then uplift spammage would stay mana positive. So you "oom" yourself and say oh that's a pity I can't RJW for a while. Every time I think about it the obvious answer is just reversing 6.1 changes.

[Vasciras]

Item - Monk T18 Mistweaver 2P Bonus Your Renewing Mist also applies Extend Life to the initial target, instantly healing them for 105.8% of Spell Power and increasing all healing done to them by 15% for 12 sec.

Changed from 25k to 105.8% of spellpower. Quite a huge nerf but it was overtuned like crazy in the first place.

[Volibear]

Item - Monk T18 Mistweaver 2P Bonus Your Renewing Mist also applies Extend Life to the initial target, instantly healing them for 105.8% of Spell Power and increasing all healing done to them by 15% for 12 sec.

Changed from 25k to 105.8% of spellpower. Quite a huge nerf but it was overtuned like crazy in the first place.

Didn't change 4-piece though.

[Vasciras]

Didn't change 4-piece though.

True, which makes me feel like they're content with it at the moment, seeing as almost all tier bonuses got touched on today.
If my math isn't completely off, it should heal for around 10k in mythic raiding gear not counting MS/Crit, while it's not much, it's still a little bit which can add up over a fight.

[Zariay]

Even with the healing change to the 2pc the extra 15% healing on top of them makes the 2pc insanely worth getting still.

25k seemed a tad too strong to begin with.

[Volibear]

Even with the healing change to the 2pc the extra 15% healing on top of them makes the 2pc insanely worth getting still.

25k seemed a tad too strong to begin with.

I agree. However, even though I haven't tested it for myself yet, I feel the 4-pc is going to be where we really feel the power of our tier bonus in 6.2.

[Zariay]

Oh definitely. I haven't even used my own t17 4pc, partly due to not having it general. Either way though, I'll definitely be using 2/2 for T17/18.

[Supliftz]

The old set bonus was actually 30k in game, due to the 20% modifier on Stance. @700 fully raid buffed my 2pc is healing for ~10k.

Pretty big nerf overall, but the 2pc before was obviously insane before. Probably still super good because the 15% extra healing on top of a 10k instant heal.

\o/ so long as 4pc stays op i'm happy.

[Zariay]

It was definitely very powerful at 25-30k.

Even still though. 10k per jump is quite nice and at least it lowers overhealing from the bouncing with 2pc.

[Supliftz]

It was definitely very powerful at 25-30k.

Even still though. 10k per jump is quite nice and at least it lowers overhealing from the bouncing with 2pc.

It's not 10k per jump, it's 10k to the initial target.

'Lowering the overhealing' is also not what you want, considering there's a lot of healing absorb mechanics in t18, on top of the legendary ring.

[Geodew]

Even then uplift spammage would stay mana positive. So you "oom" yourself and say oh that's a pity I can't RJW for a while. Every time I think about it the obvious answer is just reversing 6.1 changes.

That's how Blizz intended the new healing model to be in the first place

[Zariay]

My bad. Mis read. Whoops.