DPS feels low (combat)

[Cytheris]

When I first started playing the expansion, I played Assassination. I was playing it all the way until we downed the Kargath on Heroic and two Bladefists dropped. Being the only one that could use them I felt obligated to go combat. Now that i've gone combat, my DPS has not changed at all from when I was assassination. I feel like I know the rotation fairly well and not making many mistakes. I normally pull 18-20k on average on straight dps fights like butcher. I'm pretty sure this is low for the amount of gear I have. Currently at 647 ilvl. Most of my gear does not have haste on it since I was recently assassination.
Cytheris - Thrall

Would going back into heroic dungeons and trying to get every piece of gear I have to have haste on it be beneficial? I'm pretty new to Combat but I know that Haste is their main secondary stat.

[Kuntantee]

If you are pulling 18k with that gear, you may be doing something wrong. I was pulling that with my 634 or so gear.

[Cytheris]

If you are pulling 18k with that gear, you may be doing something wrong. I was pulling that with my 634 or so gear.

This is my rotation.
Open with ambush then immediately apply SnD. Then apply revealing strike. Keep those two up while building CP with Sinister strike and using Evis at 5 CP. It's not that hard of a rotation so i'm kinda lost as why my dps is so low. I doubt 5% haste more would have too much of an increase in dps.

[Noxina]

Got the same problem as combat.. Got 648 ilvl, and pull about 19k dps on Butcher HC. Only thing I feel I can improve is to store CPs for Bandit's Guile or what that ability is called.

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http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...akfra/advanced my armory btw.

[Keiigo]

Looked at your armory, and you seem to be low on haste at that ilvl of gear. I'm 641 ilvl on my rogue and at about 18% haste pulling about 22-23k on HC Butcher.

[Deleted]

I'm having same problems getting around 17k on every try at Butcher. 639 Ilevel. Almost got booted from my own guilds raid.

Here are my stats:

General

Agility 4007
Attack Power 4007
Multistrike 9.17%

Other

Crit 22.42%
Haste 15.00%
Mastery 31.39%
Versatility 3.38%

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Looked at your armory, and you seem to be low on haste at that ilvl of gear. I'm 641 ilvl on my rogue and at about 18% haste pulling about 22-23k on HC Butcher.

What's your rotation, that DPS is crazy

[Tindr]

Keklord - first of all - Glyph of Energy, 15% haste is very low, you should go for haste and multistrike on your gear.
Feederino - same as Kek - too little haste, too much mastery, bad trinkets and i'm not so dure about DfA.

[Cytheris]

My main question was would it be best for me to go out and get the heroic dungeon gear with haste on it to replaces my current pieces that don't have any haste? That would be a lot of lost agility.

[Kuntantee]

This is my rotation.
Open with ambush then immediately apply SnD. Then apply revealing strike. Keep those two up while building CP with Sinister strike and using Evis at 5 CP. It's not that hard of a rotation so i'm kinda lost as why my dps is so low. I doubt 5% haste more would have too much of an increase in dps.

I am not combat expert. Last time when I played combat, we were progressing in Ulduar. I was pulling 18-20k dps with assassination.

[Gentlepenguin]

that's haste on nearly every piece of gear. you're gonna lose some of that the moment you get drops. like best case scenario is a 646 with haste better than 670 gear without? i'm pretty sure shadowcraft wouldn't reflect that.

[Deleted]

It just feels really hard to gather good haste/multi gear, especially CMs have only been giving me vers/crit

[Bigbamboozal]

Did you forget to change your loot settings for your spec? Did that once...frustrating week lol.

[dak1]

They feel Rogues might still be dealing with the changes to combo points

That has to be in the top 10 list of dumbest things a Blizz developer has ever said about Rogues.

[Deleted]

That has to be in the top 10 list of dumbest things a Blizz developer has ever said about Rogues.

Yeah I don't even understand what would be so hard about it... Looks like we will be skipped tomorrow boys

[Deleted]

Because they made deep insight a pure 50% damage increase, outside of it you won't be doing much damage. Timing is everything for combat, now more than ever. Combat is definitely the way to go for highmaul though. Tons of cleave. I'm always top 5 damage in my group (20+ people), sometimes 1st.

[Deafyx]

Because they made deep insight a pure 50% damage increase, outside of it you won't be doing much damage. Timing is everything for combat, now more than ever. Combat is definitely the way to go for highmaul though. Tons of cleave. I'm always top 5 damage in my group (20+ people), sometimes 1st.

Combat is ONLY good for Cleaves. I am currently playing Combat for anything with cleave and playing Sub for single target fights. If you are playing Combat single target, more or less you are just hogging down your raid group.

[Deleted]

Combat is ONLY good for Cleaves. I am currently playing Combat for anything with cleave and playing Sub for single target fights. If you are playing Combat single target, more or less you are just hogging down your raid group.

What numbers you get on sub with all that haste?

[Cytheris]

Because they made deep insight a pure 50% damage increase, outside of it you won't be doing much damage. Timing is everything for combat, now more than ever. Combat is definitely the way to go for highmaul though. Tons of cleave. I'm always top 5 damage in my group (20+ people), sometimes 1st.

Are you just saving CDs for deep insight then?

[Deafyx]

What numbers you get on sub with all that haste?

Heroic Butcher with 27 people and 655 daggers, was pulling 21.5 but it was a shitty kill and most of us died at the very endish. Much more dps than I could do Combat at the time before I got my 2nd heroic wep.

[Koji2k11]

Rogues might still be dealing with the changes to combo points <--- you guys should all learn new cp mechanics