is it safe do a a deal involving 2 realms

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so i have a mount on realm x and want to sell it to a guy on realm y if we state the rules of the deal and i give him mount first and he gives me gold after can he scam me and get away with it i know i don't get mount back after i make ticket to gm but he will get banned also and mount taken away if he does it
am i right so he has no reason to do it?

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If it's a trade between 2 players, involving items or in-game currency, it's a legitimate trade. Don't expect any support from game masters if you get scammed.

[Lochton]

so i have a mount on realm x and want to sell it to a guy on realm y if we state the rules of the deal and i give him mount first and he gives me gold after can he scam me and get away with it i know i don't get mount back after i make ticket to gm but he will get banned also and mount taken away if he does it
am i right so he has no reason to do it?

He can scam you and Blizzard can't assist you on that, trading via the trade window isn't as easy to control. Though, if they player wants to learn the mount, for use, he/she could use a low level DK to learn it with.

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trading via the trade window isn't as easy to control. .

you mean Blizzard dose not record the info about the trade?

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Ah, you're talking about my monthly scam, I see.

[lunaru]

You will not get the mount back period

This is the exact reason why blizzard has a trade window for gold for item

If you are trying to get cash, well you are screwed if he scams you

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You will not get the mount back period

This is the exact reason why blizzard has a trade window for gold for item

If you are trying to get cash, well you are screwed if he scams you

it says in my first post i know i don't get mount back and its a mount for gold trade not mount for cash and i want to know if he gets banned if he does it because he won t have any reason to do it he has like 2mil gold on that account

[Deleted]

so i have a mount on realm x and want to sell it to a guy on realm y if we state the rules of the deal and i give him mount first and he gives me gold after can he scam me and get away with it i know i don't get mount back after i make ticket to gm but he will get banned also and mount taken away if he does it
am i right so he has no reason to do it?

State the terms of the trade in ingame chat, let him agree...if you get scammed you can get support from a GM. If the terms are not 100% clear for a GM to read they can't help you.

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He can scam you and Blizzard can't assist you on that, trading via the trade window isn't as easy to control. Though, if they player wants to learn the mount, for use, he/she could use a low level DK to learn it with.

Don't give false information, if 2 players agree on something on ingame chat (not whisper) a GM should help you and they do. The problem is that people often aren't clear on the trade and after the scam Blizz can't help them because they actually never really agreed on anything.

[Illiterate]

State the terms of the trade in ingame chat, let him agree...if you get scammed you can get support from a GM. If the terms are not 100% clear for a GM to read they can't help you.

They don't do that anymore. If you get scammed a GM will not help you.

[Lochton]

you mean Blizzard dose not record the info about the trade?

That I don't know but I know Blizzard can't track it well and that is why it isn't supported. Best trades for you is either on server A and get gold there, have him learn it, or have him pay gold to a char on server B and learn the mount on server A.

And no, he wont get banned unless the payment is seen as undesireable by Blizzard (but again, difficult to track).

[Deleted]

You will not get the mount back period

This is the exact reason why blizzard has a trade window for gold for item

If you are trying to get cash, well you are screwed if he scams you

People, please stop giving information if you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

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They don't do that anymore. If you get scammed a GM will not help you.

Must have had multiple friendly GM's then who did do it.

[Lochton]

Don't give false information, if 2 players agree on something on ingame chat (not whisper) a GM should help you and they do. The problem is that people often aren't clear on the trade and after the scam Blizz can't help them because they actually never really agreed on anything.

They don't do that anymore. If you get scammed a GM will not help you.

Basicly, trade window is YOUR responsibility. Only time GM's goes in on that now a days is if the amount of traded value hits the 'undesireable' mark. It isn't easy for them to track it and GM's hasn't supported this for a long time now.

Hence the whole fear of duping, for example. At least they haven't touched those cases since Cataclysm, that is the last time I've heard of someone getting support in such a case.

[Deleted]

They don't do that anymore. If you get scammed a GM will not help you.

They do if it's a clear and "legit" scam like giving someone mats to craft something and then he logs off.

[Illiterate]

They do if it's a clear and "legit" scam like giving someone mats to craft something and then he logs off.

That's a different situation and yes they will assist in that case. In OPs situation, it's an unsupported trade and they will not intervene.

[Christan]

cross server (multiple trades) aren't supported.

he can scam you and get away with it, unless you have a very generous GM, but methinks the GM's hands would be tied even then...

if you are serious about the trade and he isn't willing to give gold first, then just don't do it
(tell him you will show him mount, to prove you have it, then trade gold on other server, then he gets mount)

ofc he is most likely thinking the same thing... (what if i trade first and this guy scams me...?)

or he is a scammer to begin with and will take that attitude just to make it seem he is worried...so hard to tell, if you are a serious seller then make him trade gold first. safest way for you.

so tell him to trade first or transfer a character over with the gold to trade you. (if he is a serious buyer, he may do this, tell him safest way for both sides, if he really wants it, trade first or xfer character over with the gold)

[Lochton]

They do if it's a clear and "legit" scam like giving someone mats to craft something and then he logs off.

The problem is, if you do not see, the trade itself isn't on the same server as the payment (That is how I understood it, hence the whole, difficult to track approach).

[Geers]

I have successfully traded gold for mounts on a different realm multiple times.

It will not be safe 100% but you can protect yourself by clearly stating the rules in chat (there have been different accounts here). Alternatively if you are the seller offer him colateral (such as high value pets) before he trades you the gold, he trades you the gold, and then you trade the mount for the pets on the other realm. This effectively limits your risk.

One last thing you can do is find a trusted middleman, I myself can vouch for Fluffy (on the TCG mount thread in the main forums). Both players do the trade with him handling the goods.

[Stormspark]

This is an unsupported transaction. It isn't against the rules, but Blizzard isn't going to help if you do get scammed.

[Ham on Rye]

Don't Trust Anyone.

Make him trade the gold first. THEN and only then, do you give him the mount. Never, EVER, trade your end of it first. EVER.

When you go into a store, do they give you the item before you pay the money? Hell no. Same thing here. Make him pay the money, then you give him the item.

[Nekovivie]

Don't Trust Anyone.

Make him trade the gold first. THEN and only then, do you give him the mount. Never, EVER, trade your end of it first. EVER.

When you go into a store, do they give you the item before you pay the money? Hell no. Same thing here. Make him pay the money, then you give him the item.

Actually when you go to a store you have the item in your hand before you pay at the cashier