If children of illigal immigrants are entitled to High School Education, who is payin

[artemishunter1]

If children of illigal immigrants are entitled to High School Education, who is paying for them?

[Independent voter]

Illegal immigrants pay taxes. They often don't get the benefits because their illegal status.

[Sohalia]

Is this a serious question or are you just baiting? I honestly can't tell. :/

[Endus]

Illegal immigrants pay taxes. They often don't get the benefits because their illegal status.

In fact, illegal immigrants are a net positive in terms of the taxes they pay, and the benefits they reap. Americans benefit from the existence of illegal immigration, in terms of tax money.

[thatguy181]

In general, if you pay taxes, you my dear sir/madam, pay for other people's government related benefits.

[AndaliteBandit]

They can have the spot that was going to be for the unvaccinated kid.

[artemishunter1]

In fact, illegal immigrants are a net positive in terms of the taxes they pay, and the benefits they reap. Americans benefit from the existence of illegal immigration, in terms of tax money.

How do you decide that? That they are net positive. Does it include the Earned Income tax break? The reason I ask is because while amount of illigal immigrants went up this year, education funding have not went up.

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Illegal immigrants pay taxes. They often don't get the benefits because their illegal status.

Do they actually pay taxes, or "pay" taxes like oil companies like Shale? You know the refund

[Fugus]

In fact, illegal immigrants are a net positive in terms of the taxes they pay, and the benefits they reap. Americans benefit from the existence of illegal immigration, in terms of tax money.

To an extent, I honestly see them as a net negative due to the lost taxes that would have been paid if they had an American there getting a proper wage and the net decrease in unemployment as that American would not have to apply for as much, or any government aid due to the job that they are now working.

While the illegal pays in taxes and gets nothing back in benefit, I still see it as a bigger positive to have an American working it and paying in taxes as that is one American who isn't unemployed and relying on welfare, or at the least, not as much.

The money saved from not having them pulling anything out is more than taken up from the American out of work having to withdraw more than the illegal paid in in government aid.

[madyaks]

Illegal immigrants pay taxes. They often don't get the benefits because their illegal status.

Most people don't know that, they even have social security taken out and can never claim it.
Anti immigrant people are so fing stupid.

[artemishunter1]

Most people don't know that, they even have social security taken out and can never claim it.
Anti immigrant people are so fing stupid.

You are being insincere. First, no one answered whether they pay tax or "pay" tax like oil companies. Second, due to low skilled works that illigals do, their taxes are very low as well, since taxes are percentage of the income earned. Thus, while they do not receive SSC, they do use emergency services such as healthcare.

[Fugus]

Most people don't know that, they even have social security taken out and can never claim it.
Anti immigrant people are so fing stupid.

Think of it this way, which is better for our overall tax system?

1) An illegal working that job and paying in taxes and not taking any back out beyond emergency services while an American is out of work and using more than that illegal is paying in through Welfare with the long term effect of further suppressing the wages of others in that field which further lowers the overall taxes paid in from others in that field or....

2) An American working that job and paying in taxes and since he is working, he isn't having to use as much, and assuming the job actually paid what it's worth, if any taxes at all on welfare.

Which would you think would be a net positive?

[Belize]

In fact, illegal immigrants are a net positive in terms of the taxes they pay, and the benefits they reap. Americans benefit from the existence of illegal immigration, in terms of tax money.

Don't forget cheap labor! Fruits and veggies don't pick themselves.

[Wells]

You are being insincere. First, no one answered whether they pay tax or "pay" tax like oil companies.

What the fuck does this even mean?

[Chrysia]

Think of it this way, which is better for our overall tax system?

1) An illegal working that job and paying in taxes and not taking any back out beyond emergency services while an American is out of work and using more than that illegal is paying in through Welfare with the long term effect of further suppressing the wages of others in that field which further lowers the overall taxes paid in from others in that field or....

2) An American working that job and paying in taxes and since he is working, he isn't having to use as much, and assuming the job actually paid what it's worth, if any taxes at all on welfare.

Which would you think would be a net positive?

You know, they tried this. Turns out, Americans don't want to work most of the jobs that immigrants, illegal or not, work. Most of the American workers hired by farmers, for instance, quit within a week.

[artemishunter1]

Again, people are not answering this question, Do they actually Pay taxes or "Pay" taxes like oil companies. Second, since the education budget did not go up, who is paying for the extra heads?

[Revi]

Giving people education is a financial gain, look at it like a very solid investment.

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Again, people are not answering this question, Do they actually Pay taxes or "Pay" taxes like oil companies. Second, since the education budget did not go up, who is paying for the extra heads?

They are, in the future.

[DirtyDotter]

Why is this even a question when our DoD budget is ridiculously high. For what DoD costs every year we should all be flying spaceships instead of terrorizing the middle east.

When I was out west living in a immigrant community by the border everyone worked and they all paid taxes .. what the employers did was write up all of Juan's earnings (the illegal immigrant) under Pablo's name (the legal immigrant). So yes they got taxed on their wages, they get taxed when they buy things from state sales taxes. So in essence you could assume that their wages got taxed more than yours.

I dunno why the clueless rascist bigots always bring this topic up.

Keep in mind what happened a few years ago when there was a big push to deport illegals .. and a lot of illegal farm workers stopped going to work. What happened after that? Well the farmers tried hiring white people to do the work and the vast majority of them couldn't do it because "it's not white people work". From what I understand a lot of farmers just let their crops rot without even trying to harvest them because they made more money from the insurance of their crops dying than they would if white people did the harvesting.

Keep in mind you need to stop thanking the lord's son Jesus, and start thanking Jesus, Juan, and Pablo because without them you wouldn't be able to eat that food.

Keep in mind if all illegals got removed from our country, most of your food would double (im estimating) in price if not more.

Keep in mind there is noreasonable way to keep out the small percentage of illegal immigrants that are bad people (drug trafficers, etcc..) because no matter how high you build your wall, how many people you have guarding it, they will still find a way to get around it .. all that gets accomplished by fortifying our border is it keeps the good ones out, and does nothing to change the bad ones.

Keep in mind a lot of what your media, congress, senators, etc are telling you about illegal immigration, most of it is BS and if you do even a small amount of research you'll find out that they're just making up bullshit to get votes or sway your opinion (who would have thought /kappa).

Keep in mind it is ridiculously hard for people to immigrate here legally .. from what I understand there's some people that have been waiting 20+ years just to find out wether their visa is approved or denied. I wonder if they do this on purpose just so we can have people that do our dirty work for next to nothing .. doubtful, but still food for thought.

So um yeah .. this is something that I get a little heated over

[Chrysia]

Again, people are not answering this question, Do they actually Pay taxes or "Pay" taxes like oil companies. Second, since the education budget did not go up, who is paying for the extra heads?

They aren't citizens, and so aren't entitled to a tax return, afaik under current law.

The education budget is set by the legislature, take that up with them.

[artemishunter1]

You know, they tried this. Turns out, Americans don't want to work most of the jobs that immigrants, illegal or not, work. Most of the American workers hired by farmers, for instance, quit within a week.

Yes, I suppose you are right, I have to keep in mind, Farming is the only sector where illigal work at. They absolutely do not work at manual labor areas such as Restaurants, hospitals, etc. Because the down and luck African Americans, and other new legal immigrants from low skilled background do not want to work on those areas at all.

[Alvito]

This idea of illegal workers taking non stop is a false one. They pay into systems they often have no way to get anything out of. Things like SSI and other taxes with zero chances of ever seeing any of that. When people talk about givers and takers they often put many of the illegals who are working in the wrong category.