UK PM Theresa May to seek snap election.

[Mayhem]

They would have had more seats under a proportional representation system, so yes, it has hindered them.



And? FPTP hindered them. I am not interested in debating the BNP voteshare.



That is nice. How is this relevant to any claim I have made about FPTP?

My decision to support FPTP is due to a specific event in European elections that I wanted to reduce the chances of happening in Westminster. Perhaps you should read what I originally wrote, "I see the limitations of FPTP, but it hinders extremist parties and I like that." Oh look, it literally says that I see the limitations of FPTP.

Have you finished stalking me on this thread about British politics, or did you want to argue some other minor irrelevancy that you are ignorant about?

Except that by your own accounts it doesn't hinder them... as shown by sinn fein. I am well aware of your narcisissm, but dude to think i'm stalking you is way out of touch with reality.

[Kalis]

Except that by your own accounts it doesn't hinder them... as shown by sinn fein.

Panayia mou! I literally just explained why it hinders Sinn Fein in that post.

I am well aware of your narcisissm, but dude to think i'm stalking you is way out of touch with reality.

Apart from every thread on British politics you try to pick an argument with me on some inane triviality. You are obsessed, go look at Pornhub or something.

[Mayhem]

Panayia mou! I literally just explained why it hinders Sinn Fein in that post.

That's what makes this so funny. You said it can't happen, made an example of it happening and used that same example for it not happening. FPTP can't hinder extremist parties anymore as it hinders any party from gaining seats. FPTP would also hinder the greatest party you can think of, awesome system.

Apart from every thread on British politics you try to pick an argument with me on some inane triviality. You are obsessed, go look at Pornhub or something.

Ey we have something i common, i knew it, you know you can always stop to reply. :-*

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Could also look like the beginnings of Empire 2.0..... but oh goody a wiki, here's another one with the results of a failed experiment in alternativism to fptp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E...ment_formation

Bet the Belgians and now the Dutch wish they has stuck with the Great British way that works, they'll come round again eventually...

Yeah, the Belgian problem have nothing to do with its electoral system.

[JohnBrown1917]

>All these people voting in favour of very authoritarian internet.


Oh you silly very conservative folk.

[Kalis]

That's what makes this so funny. You said it can't happen, made an example of it happening and used that same example for it not happening. FPTP can't hinder extremist parties anymore as it hinders any party from gaining seats. FPTP would also hinder the greatest party you can think of, awesome system.

I did not say is cannot happen, so you are flat out lying. I said that FPTP hinders extremist parties, as they are prevented from getting much of a foothold in British politics.

Ey we have something i common, i knew it, you know you can always stop to reply. :-*

I do not go into the threads to start an inane conversation with you, whereas 9 times out of 10 you will try to pick me up on some point and demonstrate that you are clueless about British politics.

>All these people voting in favour of very authoritarian internet.


Oh you silly very conservative folk.

Parties will have policies some people do not like, such is politics.

[Mayhem]

I did not say is cannot happen, so you are flat out lying. I said that FPTP hinders extremist parties, as they are prevented from getting much of a foothold in British politics.

Except that it isn't hindering extremist parties, as it isn't targetting extremist parties. It's hindering every new party from getting much of a foothold, or if they get enough of a foothold makes them the sole winner, extremist or not, makes no difference.

I do not go into the threads to start an inane conversation with you, whereas 9 times out of 10 you will try to pick me up on some point and demonstrate that you are clueless about British politics.

Wait let me use a quote from yourself here:

you are flat out lying

[dribbles]

Yeah, the Belgian problem have nothing to do with its electoral system.

But it does.

The premier democratic British system = Election on day 1, leadership of country decided by day 2.
Dutch/Belgian/EU undemocratic system = Election on day 1, leadership of country decided by maybe in a few months, maybe a couple of years, maybe never.

You see when the British criticize the dictatorial EU and its nations as unelected and undemocratic it is because half the time no country within the EU has functioning governance.

And still so many people rubbishing the fptp system and yet unable to come up with an alternative system that works. Fptp might be imperfect in some ways, but all the others are unworkable.

Looks like the Austrian government is about to fail too,

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...lition-teeters

Stupid euros, stupid electoral system.

[JohnBrown1917]

But it does.

The premier democratic British system = Election on day 1, leadership of country decided by day 2.
Dutch/Belgian/EU undemocratic system = Election on day 1, leadership of country decided by maybe in a few months, maybe a couple of years, maybe never.

You see when the British criticize the dictatorial EU and its nations as unelected and undemocratic it is because half the time no country within the EU has functioning governance.

And still so many people rubbishing the fptp system and yet unable to come up with an alternative system that works. Fptp might be imperfect in some ways, but all the others are unworkable.

Looks like the Austrian government is about to fail too,

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...lition-teeters

Stupid euros, stupid electoral system.

>Undemocratic


You and your jokes, this is just laughable.
You do know we still have a leadership right now? right? Rutte is still in power.

[Slant]

Dribbles again with a severe lack of a clue... :P

[JohnBrown1917]

Dribbles again with a severe lack of a clue... :P

I'm sure making it easy for 1 party to gain a majority, without 50% of the votes, has it benefits, just look at all the amazing things tories are doing!

[draykorinee]

Dribbles talking drivel.

[dribbles]

>Undemocratic


You and your jokes, this is just laughable.
You do know we still have a leadership right now? right? Rutte is still in power.

The only leadership your country has at the minute is who can empty the dustbins, matters of national importance - no chance.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archive...r-immigration/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39930986
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...on-immigration
https://euobserver.com/beyond-brussels/137914

Rutte couldn't run a bath at the minute, let alone the Netherlands. Should have gone FPTP.

[JohnBrown1917]

The only leadership your country has at the minute is who can empty the dustbins, matters of national importance - no chance.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archive...r-immigration/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39930986
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...on-immigration
https://euobserver.com/beyond-brussels/137914

Rutte couldn't run a bath at the minute, let alone the Netherlands. Should have gone FPTP.

Those links have nothing to do with what I said, do you even know what your talking about?
This is what the people want.

[Mayhem]

Looks like the Austrian government is about to fail too,

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...lition-teeters

Stupid euros, stupid electoral system.

Yep, we have snap elections because one of the leaders from a major party resigned and the current coalition was canceled. The Uk has snap elections because ... ?!

[dribbles]

Those links have nothing to do with what I said, do you even know what your talking about?
This is what the people want.

The Dutch voted for no government? That's what they have at the minute, sounds like anarchy to me. I don't believe they voted for that.

Yep, we have snap elections because one of the leaders from a major party resigned and the current coalition was canceled. The Uk has snap elections because ... ?!

Because the Austrian like many of the EU governments collapse every 5 minutes due to coalition hissy fits. Snap elections in the UK don't happen like that and are inherently more strong and stable....should have gone fptp.

[JohnBrown1917]

You don't feel like the Tories are extremists?

The manifesto May put out for her election promises are draconian and completely out of touch with time or reality. Trying to 'control' the internet, ban porn? They're more extremist than most of the extremist european political parties I know of.

Meanwhile, Germany has no extremist parties in government since WWII and the netherlands had never had any in the government at all.

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The Dutch voted for no government? That's what they have at the minute, sounds like anarchy to me. I don't believe they voted for that.

I don't think you understand we still have a government, you have no idea what an anarchy is.
Rutte II will be in charge till the next coalition.

[Mayhem]

Because the Austrian like many of the EU governments collapse every 5 minutes due to coalition hissy fits. Snap elections in the UK don't happen like that and are inherently more strong and stable....should have gone fptp.

Snap elections are strong and stable?

[dribbles]

Snap elections are strong and stable?

Moreso than government collapse - see Holland.

[JohnBrown1917]

Moreso than government collapse - see Holland.

The government has not collapsed.