Why be anything but a DK?

[loldkfaceroll]

I seriously don't know what I was thinking when I didn't roll a DK at the start of the xpack.

There is just no reason not to be a DK. You can either try really hard in arena to beat DKs and lose to most of them, not because they are better players or more skilled, but simply because you are not a DK, or just join the OPness and faceroll your way to the top.

Why haven't I joined in on the OPness? I don't ahve an answer for myself. I guess the only answer is to roll one myself. There is just no reason not to be a DK.

Seriously, why haven't we all rolled DKs?

[Xthform]

Because I like waffles my good man and DKs they are pancake lovers.

[loldkfaceroll]

Because I like waffles my good man and DKs they are pancake lovers.

You are almost proving my point.

Waffles suck compare to pancakes.

[Megatwan]

first off, waffles are delicious and nutritious


to answer your question: someone has to heal and for tanks and dps some ppl just dont care about being the best lol

alternatively you could have asked why be anything but a hunter for pvp or dps about a year or so ago

[Marvdatboi]

Well unlike you I plan to join John Connor and the resistance.

[houlihan]

Waffles suck compare to pancakes.

Oh no you didn't.

Also, if we all rolled DKs, who would heal us while we faceroll?

[nitalon]

If you play a pancake simply because it's OP, then you don't like pancakes... You just CHOOSE to be a pancake because other pancakes beat the waffles out of you...

Others choose to be waffles, because waffles have a better flavour. And they try hard, or are skilled enough to beat a pancake. And I can tell you from my waffle expirience, that pancakes die just as easy as waffles, you just don't go out with guns blazing after a pancake... Work the way. Check some waffle vs pancakes videos, where waffles win, and you will see how waffles beat on pancakes.

This is not a joke, serious waffle here!

[Lysah]

Because I like waffles my good man and DKs they are pancake lovers.

/support
Pancakes can suck it, DKs can too.

[loldkfaceroll]

If you play a pancake simply because it's OP, then you don't like pancakes... You just CHOOSE to be a pancake because other pancakes beat the waffles out of you...

Others choose to be waffles, because waffles have a better flavour. And they try hard, or are skilled enough to beat a pancake. And I can tell you from my waffle expirience, that pancakes die just as easy as waffles, you just don't go out with guns blazing after a pancake... Work the way. Check some waffle vs pancakes videos, where waffles win, and you will see how waffles beat on pancakes.

This is not a joke, serious waffle here!

To say that a pancake will die just as easily as a waffle is absurd. Pancakes have a ridiculous amount of cooldowns to heal themself, reduce incoming damage, and prevent death even in the most dire of circumstances. The waffle has sacrificed almost all of his cooldowns trying to take down this pancake, but now they are gone. And without cooldowns, the pancake is still just as dangerous as he was with them, but a poor waffle such as myself has already used all of his utility, crowd control, and burst, and walked away empty handed. My healer is running low on maple syrup, and his healer just cracked open another bottle, and even has some butter in there too.

What is a waffle to do in this situation?

[noobadrood]

Because sooner or later some other spec will become the new facemelter 3000, and you don't wanna miss that (and lvling after your first 10 80s is rather boring).
And sometimes isn't fun killing your rivals just be being you (aura of leetdoom).

[rufryde2000]

your probably gonna need a heal or two, maybe three on those really tough bosses in ulduar!

[loldkfaceroll]

your probably gonna need a heal or two, maybe three on those really tough bosses in ulduar!

This is the arena forum

PVE Forum ---> that way

[Jerboa]

You're all forgetting that there are certain things that beat both pancakes AND waffles.

Anyway, this cake is great.
It's so delicious and moist.

*wanders off humming*

[loldkfaceroll]

Because sooner or later some other spec will become the new facemelter 3000, and you don't wanna miss that (and lvling after your first 10 80s is rather boring).
And sometimes isn't fun killing your rivals just be being you (aura of leetdoom).

Maybe, but considering that for every nerf DKs are getting in 3.1, they are getting 2-3 buffs which more than cancel out the effect of hte nerfs, they will stay on top for at least another season, and we wont see any changes from Blizzard for another 5 months.

[tonick]

You're all forgetting that there are certain things that beat both pancakes AND waffles.

More pancakes?

DK's are good. Holy paladins are good. That might change, it might not. You want to roll another dude, do it.

I personally hold the belief that DK's are an abomination to WoW as one of the easiest PvP classes with completely broken (not all "broken" abilities are overpowered) abilities.

[loldkfaceroll]

I personally hold the belief that DK's are an abomination to WoW as one of the easiest PvP classes with completely broken (not all "broken" abilities are overpowered) abilities.

I agree 100%

and it is for these reasons which I hold to be true that I can no longer justify not playing a DK.

[nitalon]

To say that a pancake will die just as easily as a waffle is absurd. Pancakes have a ridiculous amount of cooldowns to heal themself, reduce incoming damage, and prevent death even in the most dire of circumstances. The waffle has sacrificed almost all of his cooldowns trying to take down this pancake, but now they are gone. And without cooldowns, the pancake is still just as dangerous as he was without them, but a poor waffle such as myself has already used all of his utility, crowd control, and burst, and walked away empty handed. My healer is running low on maple syrup, and his healer just cracked open another bottle, and even has some butter in there too.

What is a waffle to do in this situation?

I'll be serious in naming the class now... but before that, try some 3v3 aswell, and you wil lsee how a DK, who's healer and partner (if he is a CCer) are controlled well, can die as fast as any other class. We tend to kill DKs first.

But back to 2v2...
It depeands what class you play aswell, with the combo. But the fact stands, a skilled xxx class will win an arena match against Dk teams. Some DKs team up with another dps, hoping to spike down targets and relay on theyr own survivability. And although there is alot of that, it's not too hard to counter them. CC is your best friend against DKs, but spliting them and the healer apart is not too hard, provided they HAVE a healer partner which can make it chalenging if they play the same lvl of skill as you. (DK + another dps suck as oponents in middle rated arenas)

Dks are extremly, and I do mean extremly easy to kite. Those classes that can not kite, have an arsenal of stoping CC or "big guns" in their pockets.
Force the pressure on his healer, mind you, a solo DK can't spike you if you played arena before and know how to cope with the situation. Turn it into 2v1 play, it's easy to do that vs DKs!. CC DK, mana drainage (against some healers it's usefull), and force the healer to kite. If you again had well arena expirience in the past seasons, you should know how to stay on his tail well enough to force the pressure. Timed CC and focus on DK again, and he can go down with enough speed that his healer can't reach him.
(I am talking about medium rated arenas, since by what you say you have alot of problems atm with them)
At tougher ratings, and you will worry about ALOT more than DKs.

Personaly, I am a hunter, and I know, my class is Op... ok, but I also play a lock, who as you know well is not the favourite class in arenas...
I like meeting Dks in arenas, on both characters. I play both 2v2s with a healer, just because not all arenas are won by "target and kill fast fast zomg spike"... and Dks are at least for me, atm, easyest to deal with, along with other warlocks.

Just train, kee training, watch videos, find some other 2Kish waffles to give you tips against pancakes in arenas, practice them... and you'll find that a waffle can beat the crap out of pancakes.

[Xthform]

Wow I can't believe so many people ran with my pancake waffle remark I'm touched guys.

[tonick]

Above poster is wrong. DK/Pal 50% 2k+ arena rep. You wrong, boy.

[nitalon]

Yes Tonick, they are. But read the post again, and before you decide not to be a waffle and reroll a pancake, you'll see it's NOT about 2K rated arenas, but about middle ratings, 1650ish to 1850ish.... The key word here is that skilled xxx SHOULD win over these rated DKs who "facerolled" their way there.

By what you get to hear about people complaining about DKs, Paladin's, Hunters, Rogues and.....
you get to think if they get at least 1650 rating....

Once you get close to 2K, it stops being a question what class you face, but how good you are aswell.

As people before said, everything changes, and these classes may drop down, alot, and one of the waffles may become the new pancake, but if you can't deal with being a waffle Tonick, well, then go make a pancake now. Wonder if you will get 2K with it.