Guys, are we the baddies? (Alliance)

[Deleted]

OK everyone things that Hordes are the baddies and we are the honorable goodyes....but apparenltly not...
First we get to destroy Camp taurajo, killing the civilians in the process and looting it.
Second We ally with the grimtotem taurens in stonetalon to mash up some orcs
Thrid we destroy the dancing troll willage, this helping the twilight cultist in the area a bit ( by saving them from a troll invasion that is)! And lots of more darkish things!
And heres something for fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY
Please, discuss!

[Deleted]

Old and no, the Horde are the baddies.

[RBFxJMH]

yikes... um... well, both sides see themselves as being good, that's why the WoW factions are deeper than most games because there isn't a clear good vs evil.

[jitzul]

inb4 alliance fanboy that gets there pants in a bunch. and say no as loud as possible while trying to say the horde are evil and should be wiped out(which is kind of evil trying to wipe out a whole bunch of races)

[luccadeo]

Good and bad are a just a point of view. Neither side is really good but both sides have done bad.

[Nooska]

inb4 alliance fanboy that gets there pants in a bunch. and say no as loud as possible while trying to say the horde are evil and should be wiped out(which is kind of evil trying to wipe out a whole bunch of races)

Too late, first reply beat you to it.

[Palmoleum]

Neither The Horde nor The Alliance is good/evil. They're just trying to survive the chaotic world of Azeroth, doing what they must to do so.

[jitzul]

Too late, first reply beat you to it.

damn i got to learn to type faster

[JustinJgh]

Those dancing trolls were about to attack the Night Elves, and they have fortified and are attempting to expand into Night Elf land.

And since the Night Elves routed the Shatter Spear Trolls, with few if any losses... I think they can handle those cultists themselves.

[Video Games]

Alliance was never really that good. Especially in wc3. Horde aren't much better really. You'd think sylvanas wouldn't want to kill innocent people since she was wrongfully killed herself, but nope, she's just a blood thirsty banshee like the rest of them. And if anybody says she's just doing it because her people can't procreate, then what's so bad about that? They aren't suppose to exist and should just go extinct so they can finally rest in peace, not make more and make people suffer like she suffered. Garosh just want to kill people. If anything they should just go back to outland since they're from there instead of just fighting with alliance all the time. I assume carine and his son wanted peace. Vol'jin just wants to be left alone, probably. They're about the same evil wise.

[grimkiller]

Both sides are both good and bad.
If you are Horde, you believe you are fighting for freedom, honor, and glory.
If you are Alliance, you belive you are fighting for freedom, honor, and glory.

In war, there truly is no right and wrong, good and evil.
There is just victory and defeat.

[jitzul]

Those dancing trolls were about to attack the Night Elves, and they have fortified and are attempting to expand into Night Elf land.

And since the Night Elves routed the Shatter Spear Trolls, with few if any losses... I think they can handle those cultists themselves.

yep because a small village of trolls compare to whole cult with the power of the old gods evil magic and deathwing

[Albert the fish]

in warcraft 1 and 2 the lines were clear
the Alliance was good the Horde was bad

in Warcraft 3 that...well changed. the Alliance got much much much darker, and the Horde got much more honorable and more 'good guyish'

in WoW with the continuation of the fervent racism and hate of the alliance and the horde forgiving and even accepting one of their ancestral enemies (elves) that balance swung a little further the other way making the Horde marginally more good guy overall and the alliance marginally more bad guy overall.
still they are both pretty gray and both good guy and bad guy

cataclysm is seeming to bring the Horde back towards the darkness somewhat with Sylvanas being...Sylvanas and with Garrosh being darker than Thrall.

the alliance however doesn't seem to be getting any nicer, possibly worse.

so in the end i think we're all becoming bad guys. there are no good guys in wow anymore. cept maybe the pandaren and the tauren..JUST the tauren.

the rest of the people are growing darker and darker by the expansion.

a different approach

[ara]

None are really good or bad, it's not that simple. If you want proof of some horde quests being "evil" check this out: http://www.wowhead.com/quest=13230

[Patty]

Yes, you are now the new Baddies.. We.. The Horde.. Are now victims and demand you to stop, or i'll stomp some more face in bgs!

[Cablecow]

damn i got to learn to type faster

lmfao

[Deleted]

no one cared to Mention undead ARE evil no matter how you look at it they dont care of ur horde or alliance they still cut right thru you to kill everything they dont like and spread the plagues

[Cluck]

Both factions are both the good and the bad guys.

[bahumut5]

Those dancing trolls were about to attack the Night Elves, and they have fortified and are attempting to expand into Night Elf land.

And since the Night Elves routed the Shatter Spear Trolls, with few if any losses... I think they can handle those cultists themselves.

This, and the Trolls were also grinding down the Ancients Ruins the Nightelves gave their life for to protect.
Personally, I would be pretty pissed as well if they destroyed something important to me. And if an whole race gets pissed, shits gonna happen.

[Albert the fish]

no one cared to Mention undead ARE evil no matter how you look at it they dont care of ur horde or alliance they still cut right thru you to kill everything they dont like and spread the plagues

good point, but he's not asking if the Horde are the bad guys. just the alliance

the answer is yes.the alliance are the bad guys

the horde is going that way(the forsaken are already just evil, but the tauren are probably the only really "good" race..balanced..well except that the rest of the horde is becoming more evil)

the burning legion is also evil

the scourge was evil but they aren't really playing with us much anymore.


not even the factions on smallscale are good anymore
the argent crusade is the best off really