With an even slightly not idiotic healer I can chain pull heroics *in frost spec and ICC 25 N/H gear* and clear instances in sub-15 minutes. Spamming howling blast means I'm usually pulling in the neighborhood of 13k DPS on trash packs of 4 mobs or so. While tanking. Taking an easily healable amount of damage.
TL;DR, Tank geared tanks are pretty much absolete for WoTLK heroics at this point. You simply don't need them. (The exception being the ICC 5 mans, those mobs simply hit too hard as far as I can tell).
First of all : you're + we're. Your english skills are probably close to your wow skills.
If you think that this late in the expansion where clothies can pretty much tank anything else other than the icc5mans it's ok to wait for a slow tank, then you probably are one of those "casuals". Not actual casuals that can play, but you know what i mean.
Also cata will be easy, pros will play with pros, and the lfd will be left for alts and those who can't play for <happy words>. You seem to like being a <happy words>.
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My bad bro, i didn't actually quote his initial post so i remembered it wrong after reading all that was posted. It is indeed we're, i know that thanks. You can take your "moron" though and stick it up you know where. XoXo.
I hate tanks that pulls so damn freaking slow when i could SOLO the damn instance. I'm supporting the Dk here 100%. Whats the problem with him pulling if it doesn't make you wipe because the instances are so damn easy? You just have that attitude "tanks pulls no matter what".
When i do HC's on my Rogue (almost never?) i do all the tanking.
When i do HC's on my priest i don't rly care who is tanking, i could keep an undergeared mage up tanking a boss..
So why bother? let the DK tank if hes faster and you'll have the HC done in a jiffy, dont bother lecturing ppl how Cata HC's will be, they will learn in time
first off the attitude of most of the responses is extremely worrisome for cataclysm where tanks will need to tank and dps will need to behave themselves. Too many people have got into bad habits and there are going to be a ton of wipes in cata.
Secondly, your attitude to the tank just makes that person feel insignificant. Ever think of that? no. Unless you have a train to catch, which you dont, (otherwise you wouldnt be playing a video game) stop trying to play the game at a hundred miles an hour. Or maybe you should sign up for tanking when you queue. Hell you will get in faster.
This person decided to sign up for tanking, not you, so keep the fuck away from the mobs till he pulls. Douches.
When I tank on my alts in heroics, I don't mind if DPS pull aggro cos it's normally not a problem these days, even for a clothie, saying that, they usually don't get aggro and I move pretty quickly anyway. One thing that does piss me off no end tho' is when DPS run on ahead starting to dps other packs when the stuff I have at the moment isn't even halfway dead yet.
I certainly wouldn't rage and vote kick them tho' if they died, I'd just lol while they ran in, as I'd be chain pulling. They best hope the healer gets OOC or has a BR.
Yeah, it will be a different story in Cata, but now is now.
often people who shouldnt be queuing as tanks do queue as a tank so that they get faster queues. you blame the dps for not queueing as a tank and possibly screwing over ur group? i believe that it is a common courtesy to get at least a 4k gs before u start tanking. anywhere before that is a waste of the group's time and effort.
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i never pull when there is still a pack alive, that is just pointless, dps should only pull if the tank is just standing there with his thumb up his ass.
In this case that doesn't really work b/c if the DK knew half what he was doing he doesn't actually need to be healed by a healer (freakin' DK's).
I get annoyed with this from people too. Seems like some people just have the mentality that everyone should be geared up in ICC gear now and know all the heroics fights frontwards and backwards. they forget there are some people who are just hitting 80 now for the first time, some people lvl'ing alts, etc. Personally I prefer a slightly overly cautious tank than one who is overzealous. Far fewer wipes are caused by a cautious tank. Anyways, these people won't change and dps is a dime a dozen in heroics so vote them out an replace. Easy peasy