Originally Posted by
Eno
Actually no, i play my warrior for "alt runs" but, as i said, im NOT min maxing him, that means i do play him and i do read changes that are happening but im not following much theoryc that is happening behind changes, but i do read other threads in this forum too to keep my self in the loop. I did look last pages and i said that they are more QQing than constructive replies.
As i stated i never went deep in the theoryc for fury's so, mechanically wise i didnt say a thing, nor i said that you or anyone else wrong for pointing out mechanical flaws of new rotation. Last few pages were more orientated on playstyle and how much fun are the changes, where i read a lot of qqing to "fun factor" that new rotation brings so i replied to that from my personal opinion after playing fury since FL and last couple of months in beta. So by saying that spec is more fun than it actually looks on first look is nothing bad, right?
Of course, i expected that my line about rolling a monk or enhance would be flamed so its nothing new, i dont say that you need to or that you should reroll as all "core" stuff is still there as it always was. I said that, based on a quote that i posted about "near-perfect rotation," where stuff like DoTs are mentioned, DoTs that fury doesnt have (outside Bloodbath) quite some time now.
Again, i must specify that i havent mentioned anything about mechanic as i already said, i was refering to "fun" factor which i claimed that is still there after short time that it took me to get used to changes. I havent read much lately about warrior changes, theoryc that i read up to was just before RB got buffed to extend CS window, personally the change that i really dont like so i stopped there and im not involving my self in theoryc topics as i would do more damage than contribute.
My point was that warrior is still "fun" to play because all "core stuff" is still there, explained why i think so and that was it.
I agree on this, a LOT of stuff has been simply removed, made passive or cut out for the sake of dumbing the class, not just warriors but several more. I for one dont support that kind of policy where theres small learning curve. I support steep learning curves that simply define are you a good or exceptional warrior. Im in WoW since day 1 of vanilla up until now and for that time i'we been on and off couple of times. For me BC and LK were the best expansions that this game served where learning curve was extremely high and there was a clear definition between dedicated and casual player. I do agree that dev team simply went bonkers and its full lazyness they dumbed down the game so much that its funny to see it. I must again mention different class here and say: just look what they did to druids DoC in WoD, in all their lazyness they split it into two talents now.
Ill be honest here and say that personally i LOVED the idea of warriors having a dot or short buff that they had to manage and, for me, ignite weapon was perfect for a warrior. but they removed it for the sake of dumbing down the spec and gave us modified Stormbolt instead of it. During that phase of beta i had great fun playing my fury. I already mentioned RB change to affect CS a bith higher so i wont mention it here again.
I Presume, from what i saw lvl 100 talents are quite.. unimaginative and i was quite disappointed when i saw them. A lot of them looks like split talents from MoP (5.4 Dream of Cenarius > 6.0 Dream of Cenarius+Bloodtalons), next to them are the talents that are copy/paste (Holy Avenger > Serenity) just their "theme" has been changed to fit the class they are put to.
TBH, to me, it looks like devs spent far to much time on "world" and everything in it than on classes in game as im really disappointed in pretty much 70% of talents implemented, specially since i expected much from lvl100 talents, like iconic lvl100.
Crisius, i know that You are a great poster and that you contributed much to community, i do keep up with Your posts, but i really need to ask you, are you sure? I was playing fury/arms just last night and CS was there. Again, since You said that my post was bashing, i must stress out that i was referring to FUN factor about which i read last few pages, i never mentioned or got into any mechanical stuff behind fury.
Edit: I just now read up on upcoming fury changes. Damn, i dont like them even more now. D: