WoW Down to 7.6 Million Subscribers

I like how the infographic was saved as "alphasoonlol.jpg" =p

well played by blizz a job well done really considering its the pre xpac slump atm.

anyone who says WoW is doing bad because its down a tiny 200k subs during virtually no new content for ages is rather stupid and knows nothing about running a business and should be ignored, sure WoD could be ready sooner and subs would be higher, but it's a big company they're not purposely giving us no content they just don't have anything right now, it sucks but what can you do.

Probably going to lower with the announcement that tier won't be in LFR.

That took away a very large amount of motivation for a lot of casual players.

Like it or not, it will happen. WoW may have been looking up, but that announcement was not positively received by anyone except the special snowflake raiders who wanted to look special in town in tier. And Blizzard even admitted in an interview that's why they were removed from LFR, so you could tell who raiders were in town. AKA Making them feel special.

Looks like WoW's current "stable" population number is around 7-8 million.

Content patches and expansion might temporary spike the numbers, but once they have run their course, down back to 7-8 million it goes.

That said, I wonder just how long WoW can maintain it's 7-8 million. The game is getting older and older by the year ... it's going to get harder and harder to attract new players - especially those that are now growing up on PS4 level graphics. Competition is only going to get stiffer - Blizzard's competitors aren't quitting any time soon it seems; so many MMOs in the pipeline.

Originally Posted by Myzou

Probably going to lower with the announcement that tier won't be in LFR.

That took away a very large amount of motivation for a lot of casual players.

I very much doubt the removal of a tier bonus will make that big of a difference. It will essentialy be the same thing, with more loot even.

Originally Posted by Tzalix

I very much doubt the removal of a tier bonus will make that big of a difference. It will essentialy be the same thing, with more loot even.

It's not the bonus people care about.

It's the fact the LFR sets look like crap. The crafted sets look about 1000x better than the LFR sets, and the fact tier is always the sets that get the most time in development.

Seriously, the level up gear in Mists looks better than the LFR gear in WoD. It looks horrendous, and they think it's ok because they added group finder to normal mode, and think everyone's gonna jump over there, despite the fact 90% of people will get booted for not having good enough gear.

Originally Posted by Myzou

It's not the bonus people care about.

It's the fact the LFR sets look like crap. The crafted sets look about 1000x better than the LFR sets, and the fact tier is always the sets that get the most time in development.

Seriously, the level up gear in Mists looks better than the LFR gear in WoD. It looks horrendous, and they think it's ok because they added group finder to normal mode, and think everyone's gonna jump over there, despite the fact 90% of people will get booted for not having good enough gear.

I think most gear looks crap. That's what transmog exists for. I really don't think people will care that much.

Originally Posted by Socialhealer

well played by blizz a job well done really considering its the pre xpac slump atm.

anyone who says WoW is doing bad because its down a tiny 200k subs during virtually no new content for ages is rather stupid and knows nothing about running a business and should be ignored, sure WoD could be ready sooner and subs would be higher, but it's a big company they're not purposely giving us no content they just don't have anything right now, it sucks but what can you do.

exept this numebrs are not from the no content period only from period of intese PR , "expansion coming sooner then ever" and "beta is jsut around corenr guys i bet itll be next week it has to be" period

the real test will be this quarter. boosted 90s partially helped this quarter, but I dont see anything new for the next 4-6 months other than beta.

Originally Posted by Xuvial

To be fair all an MMO has to do now is build on lessons learned from from other MMO's (namely WoW). For example GW2's combat is incredibly fluid and intuitive. It's probably the only MMO where I can swing my sword through something and it FEELS like it's making a physical impact :P

Having played GW2, it suffers from the same thing many other newer mmo's suffer from, a very generic and boring combat system. being so severely limited in regards to your action bar, so few skills and the fact that you can be chasing an enemy who is clearly in melee range yet your melee range abilities wont go off (just another part of that "smoothness and polish" that WoW has that I mentioned earlier). Just a few of the reasons why GW2 never became a "WoW Killer"

Originally Posted by Moradim

the real test will be this quarter. boosted 90s partially helped this quarter, but I dont see anything new for the next 4-6 months other than beta.

maybe but I believe a lot of those people who will have stopped playing will return once the expansion hits, it's only natural to stop playing something that has a lull like this.

Originally Posted by Tzalix

I think most gear looks crap. That's what transmog exists for. I really don't think people will care that much.

You should really check twitter and the forums then. People care.

I couldn't care less if tier is raiders only. However, don't give us leftover crap looking gear because we aren't raiders.

ANd because of that, I won't be renewing. I had been contemplating returning this month, but when they announced LFR was losing tier, it gave me a very firm no to ever returning, because Blizzard made it painfully obvious they don't care about casual players, and essentially said "Shut up and do normal, because we made it easier to find a group."

Not really suprised. Some ppl didnt like the changes coming. i do expect a nother couple of sub falls

Originally Posted by brandonsurge

Having played GW2, it suffers from the same thing many other newer mmo's suffer from, a very generic and boring combat system. being so severely limited in regards to your action bar, so few skills and the fact that you can be chasing an enemy who is clearly in melee range yet your melee range abilities wont go off (just another part of that "smoothness and polish" that WoW has that I mentioned earlier). Just a few of the reasons why GW2 never became a "WoW Killer"

are you sure you played gw2? your skills will activate no matter the range, you don't have to have something targeted to use them

In times like these i was expecting 1mil+ loss, srsly all my friends and my Guild are on a break unsubbed till WoD

Originally Posted by Kryos

That graph looks like... any product cycle

I prefer this one

Not surprised, and it'll only get worse until WoD launches.

Originally Posted by brandonsurge

You literally cant disagree with the smoothness and fluidity of WoW's combat compared to every other MMO out there. 10 years of tweaking will do that to a game and it's just impossible for any other MMO to have that sort of experience and TIME to tweak thousands of things over the years.

it was amazingly already this well at release. There is a increasingly long negative list about wow but combat is something they got right from the start.

Does anyone remember Blizzards promise of faster expansions and more content patches? We're a little more than four months from the regular two year intervals for expansions. I wouldn't call say (a July release, which would be insane considering it's may), to be a promise well kept by Blizzard if it's only two months sooner than most expansions. And what about those faster, and numerously more content patches?

So nothing as far as sub numbers goes has changed in 11 months. And yet every single time MMO-champ posts a thread like this pretty much all of the comments are "LOL WOW IS DYING". Literally 11 months has passed and we're only down 100k subs. Sorry folks, wow is not dying and this post does not prove it. If you think the game is dead, I doubt you would be coming here and posting about it the day of the post. Seems like nothing but trolls screaming the game is dead when very clearly it is far from dead.