Battle for Stromgarde Warfront Available for Alliance

Originally Posted by kaid

I think the feature has promise but it needs there to be multiple going so that they are rotating through fast enough that one should be available if you want to do one. Also probably should have some difficulty mode options for those wanting a more challenging experience.

Agreed. They should make a version where you queue as a raid only.

Originally Posted by Kazlofski

You can spam it 24/7 until 7 days expire.

Every 15-20 days.

Didn't they increase the ilvl to 350, or was that for something else? *confused*

Originally Posted by Explicit Teemo Nudes

Didn't they increase the ilvl to 350, or was that for something else? *confused*

Base reward for completing the scenario is still item level 340.

how long do these take to complete?

Originally Posted by cateran

You are not really good with logic, do you? Easy and fast 340--} easier and faster m+, better gear--} easier, faster and better chance for success in raid progress....and yes, gear matters a lot, Method vs Limit....

I'm sorry, but you are the one not good with logic here.

When Warfront was opened (which took ~5-6 days) everyone from Method and Limit had already farmed gear from Mythic+, rendering Warfront useless for gearing when it comes to actual World First race.

After that, why would or should there be a rush in gearing up asap? I for one did Warfront only once, but it's so goddamn boring since there's no challenge whatsoever, that I went back to Mythic+, as it's more challenging and more rewarding.

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Originally Posted by Maudib

Yeah? How about Horde getting it first and there being NO minimum iLevel to participate? The Horde outgear Allioance because of this... by FAR.

Warfront does not enable outgearing. Getting 340 gear is not outgearing. Getting 1x370 is not outgearing BY FAR. People that are in a hurry to gear up spam M+ and "outgear" others by doing that as much as possible.
Warfront is, if anything, just there for Alts to "catch-up" and be able to raid after 2 days from hitting 120. (Getting 320 ilvl does not take that long, and if it does take several days for you, then the whole "outgearing" argument is kinda null...)

Originally Posted by Maudib

Yeah? How about Horde getting it first and there being NO minimum iLevel to participate? The Horde outgear Allioance because of this... by FAR.

Nobody plays alliance dude. Just look at how horde dominated every single zone is in bfa.

warfronts were quite possibly the worst idea ever put into wow.

Of course there are fresh 120s, but its funny that 340 is irrelevant for most, and alliance only just got access to it.

GJ blizzard

People are acting like 320 is hard to get, lmao. Get your ass in some dungeons and be 320 in no time.

Originally Posted by Hyanar

People are acting like 320 is hard to get, lmao. Get your ass in some dungeons and be 320 in no time.

You don't even need to do that... I did one dungeon since hitting 120 and got no loot from it. Just world questing should do it.

Originally Posted by cateran

You are not really good with logic, do you? Easy and fast 340--} easier and faster m+, better gear--} easier, faster and better chance for success in raid progress....and yes, gear matters a lot, Method vs Limit....

Members of Method were on YouTube last week on record saying farming PvP was more efficient and gave better gear. They did not gear up for the world first through warfronts, except possibly filling in the gaps they weren't getting from other sources.

I don't get it. SO I've done the Warfront... how come the mage still won't let me teleport there, and why do I still get no loot from rares there?

Originally Posted by Alayea

Base reward for completing the scenario is still item level 340.

I'm talking about the ilvl needed to enter. I recall some blue saying they would increase the ilvl to 350, but guess I remember wrong or they changed their minds again.
Not talking about the ilvl of the gear dropping.

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Originally Posted by rogueMatthias

I don't get it. SO I've done the Warfront... how come the mage still won't let me teleport there, and why do I still get no loot from rares there?

I think we need to wait until we control it. Right now we're fighting over it(even though you've been there and won). "Lore-wise" we're still fighting over it.

Would make a lot of sense to have a scenario drop 340 when you need 350 to enter. You might be remembering that originally there was no item level restriction at all and they hotfixed it to be 320.

Having played my first one last night, I really feel it could have been fun if it was just a party of 5 people and otherwise everything was the same. (but maybe better rewards)
That would actually make some parts of it a bit challenging and even have a risk of failure.
Right now it's just a zerg to the finish with no real challenge or possibility of failure... /sad

Originally Posted by huldu

The 320 item level requirement is absurd. LFR has the same requirement and is, let's be honest, on a completely different "difficulty" scale than the warfront. It's like comparing normal mode dungeon to mythic raiding. They really dropped the ball on increasing the requirement. It's *only* useful for alts, except one time for the 370 reward if you for some reason need that, but good luck with the rng.

Fun is not in your dictionary?

Originally Posted by prwraith

Nobody plays alliance dude. Just look at how horde dominated every single zone is in bfa.

Most Alliance players play with WM off, just because it a BS system.

Originally Posted by Sydpolen

Warfront does not enable outgearing. Getting 340 gear is not outgearing. Getting 1x370 is not outgearing BY FAR. People that are in a hurry to gear up spam M+ and "outgear" others by doing that as much as possible.
Warfront is, if anything, just there for Alts to "catch-up" and be able to raid after 2 days from hitting 120. (Getting 320 ilvl does not take that long, and if it does take several days for you, then the whole "outgearing" argument is kinda null...)

Man... it is such a simple concept but a few just can't get it.

Horde didn't have an iLevel requirement. They added that after they saw what a clusterfreak it turned out to be. Certinaly Alliance were at 320 before they FINALLY got their chance to get into a warfront.

The point is, literally within a few hours, Horde walked into Mythic+ in 340+ gear. This made is MUCH easy to push higher M+. Much easier to gear higher iLevel... before Alliance even got into a single warfront!

Hordes progression was made laughably simple... and given the headstart to boot.

I really don;t care as I didn;t buy BfA and am not going to. But to say Horde didn't have a pretty big advantage this expansion? Completely wrong.

Originally Posted by Maudib

Man... it is such a simple concept but a few just can't get it.

Horde didn't have an iLevel requirement. They added that after they saw what a clusterfreak it turned out to be. Certinaly Alliance were at 320 before they FINALLY got their chance to get into a warfront.

The point is, literally within a few hours, Horde walked into Mythic+ in 340+ gear. This made is MUCH easy to push higher M+. Much easier to gear higher iLevel... before Alliance even got into a single warfront!

Hordes progression was made laughably simple... and given the headstart to boot.

I really don;t care as I didn;t buy BfA and am not going to. But to say Horde didn't have a pretty big advantage this expansion? Completely wrong.

And here is why speaking out of ignorance a bad thing. It took Horde 1 week to even open up Warfront! That means that both Horde and Alliance had 4 weeks(!!) of time to gear up. 1 week before Warfront even opened for Horde both factions ran M+, Normal Raid and Heroic Raid. When Warfront got released (not opened mind you!), M+ got released as well. Do you seriously think that Alliance sat there for 1 week doing nothing because they didn't have access to Warfront?

As I said, Warfront if anything is an alternativ method for alts to catch-up, because everyone else that played since BFA release had outgeared Warfront by then. So again, no, Horde did not get a "Big Advantage", and by the time Warfront opened it was no use for the guilds that raced for World First or anyone that had been 120 for a week or longer. So no, Warfront did not enable outgearing. The only logic if Warfront enabled outgearing was if you HAD to do Warfront instead of Heroics and M0 to get gear.

You are just clearly riding on the whine-wagon, complaining without even fact-checking your arguments first...

Also:

Originally Posted by Maudib

The point is, literally within a few hours, Horde walked into Mythic+ in 340+ gear. This made is MUCH easy to push higher M+. Much easier to gear higher iLevel... before Alliance even got into a single warfront!

Again, it took 1 week to open up Warfront. Horde had 1 week of time to push M+ as high as possible before they had access to Warfront. By the time Warfront opened they had already outgeared Warfront drops, so for gearing purposes Warfront was useless, except for 1 single item. This quote above shows just how ignorant your rant is.