why do people want that p.o.s legendary. Its ugly and lacks creativity.
why do people want that p.o.s legendary. Its ugly and lacks creativity.
There is an issue here:
Despite the colour of he loot the item is NOT a legendary.
It has evolved into a basic item.
Previous legendaries its maybe 2-3 in a guild with it giving each person a small advantage. The cloak if for every raider in a guild, content has been done such that itis required therefore you had to do it on most characters to get the expected out of your character.
Personally i would rather there be a legendary I couldn't use and as such is a legendary rather than a questing item that is an essential item
4days since got 90
playing 2-3hper day
missing 1sigil of wisdom
ilvl499 atm, waiting for wife to get 496 so we can go SoO lfr and mybe try making some pug for ToT
I hate the fact that i will always do 20% less DPS than everybody else with my alt too...
For people who say "there have always been legendaries and you didnt have them on alts"... thats right, but LFR baddies didnt have the Legendaries either. Now you just need to afk through LFR every week and you are an official Legendary wielder.
Moreover you had quite equal epic items... if you didn't have Dragonwrath you could use the Madwing HC dagger for about equal DPS, if you didnt have Warglaives you did fine with the Sunwell Weapons. Legendary Cloak is simply 10 times as good as all other cloaks.
I think it was an interesting experiment and the quest chain was okay if you started out in 5.0 and kept up, but it made it really frustrating to reroll halfway through the expansion. The legendary doesn't just limit your ability to gear alts, but also your ability to pick a new main.
In terms of rarity, you're right. In terms of power, it's deserving of the color. In terms of difficulty in acquiring it? Debatable. The main difference is that every previous legendary was heavily restricted in who could use it (only so many specs can use a 2H axe with a strength proc) and limited to one person per raid group at a time or limited by arbitrarily low drop rates. Now everyone who is willing to put in the effort to get it can do so.
Diplomacy is just war by other means.
So I see two threads on the front page today about the legendary cloak:
1) OMG Welfare legendary so easy to get damn you Blizzard
2) OMG this freaking legendary is so hard to get damn you Blizzard
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It's not.
You can beat the entire raid tier with no cloak.
i never cried about how hard it is to get it, i actually think its should be super hard and rare people get it, but a long gring that everyone have to do or else u are just too weak for the current content is a mistake
if they made SoO attuned to not having the cape then it would have been a joke with it
1 person is stronger cause of legendary but people are not excluded with out it, is fine
1 person is weaker with out it and get excluded is not fine
Last edited by eadan4111; 2014-01-30 at 03:56 AM.
What makes the cloak a "welfare" legendary? Its obtained the same way as most of the other ones (except ones like the warglaives). Do the same raids every week 50 times in a row, hope for reagents to drop, combine reagents in annoying quests, sit through some annoying RP cut-scene and badabing, legendary!
The only difference is you dont have to be in a guild and be "special" enough to be chosen by some stranger to be the one to collect the drops for the quest line. And have to deal with the loot drama that almost always came about.
the real different is that u cant raid without it, well u can but the raid attuned of people having it
no other raid in history was attuned for having a legendary that take 3 month to get and it killed my guild all alt all not having legendary cape/meta runs
is this a good thing?
if they made SoO attuned to not having the cape then it would have been a joke with it
My 15 year old son's rogue regularly out damages people wearing the legendary cloak and he is still gathering runestones for his. It's not the cloak that makes or breaks you, it's you and how you play your character - regardless of whether it's an alt or a main. If you feel you can't be competitive, what's stopping you from making yourself better? I got news for you, it's probably not that cloak.
Sounds like your guild is being exclusionary about something that isn't necessary.
I swapped factions in late fall. I didn't want to transfer so I leveled up a character I already had sitting at 70. I dinged 90 on 11/19/2013 and I got my cloak on 1/22/2014. So yeah, two months. Two months of "work" for a legendary is nothing.
its actually
1 week sigils. u can get exalted on BP rep in the same then wait 3 weeks, or 2 more after your first week. then get started on secrets thats essentially 2-3 weeks for 20.. averaging 8 per week. runestones is 3-4. so 3 + 3+ 4= 10 weeks tops. just about 2.5 months. it sucks but the cape does add a significant amount of dps. my advice is to start legendary quests asap cause it takes a long time for them.
You want the cape to be super hard to obtain but you complain about having to do a bit of grinding to get one on an alt?
The cape is ~5% of your DPS.
SoO NM is not tuned to you having the cape.
SoO HM is probably tuned to you having the cape IF this is your first week in SoO and you have no other SoO NM or HM pieces. Ie, if you're in Paragon or Method etc. Normal players entering SoO HM today have had months to gather gear and so are massively better geared than they were anyway so the cape is unlikely to be a barrier even then.
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He's completely correct, the cloak is like 5% of your DPS so someone without it can absolutely out-DPS you if they are simply better.
There was another Rogue in my old HM guild that used to almost out-DPS me when I had the legendary DAGGERS and he didn't. He was that good. DAGGERS. They're WEAPONS.
can i raid without it like i could in the past?
does the raid attuned to not having it?
can i kill heroic bosses?
the feeling of having to do it at max level to be competitive make me not wanna level an alt
lets say u don't like your current main, and feel like leveling a new char and gearing it to be ready for SoO, would u? so many people wouldnt and its cause of the time consuming legendary
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He's completely correct, the cloak is like 5% of your DPS so someone without it can absolutely out-DPS you if they are simply better.[/QUOTE]
u are drinking some strong kool aid, cape + meta can be up to 130k DPS in some fights
Did you even read my post? I said that's exactly what I did. I didn't like what I was doing, so I basically rerolled. If you're decently skilled, most guilds will take you without the cloak as long as you explain the circumstances and they know you're actively working towards it.