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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The media can't possibly to anything right in the eyes of tens of millions of Americans. Those people have allowed trump to control the message, and either believe it fully, or just want to shitpost their credibility away. The media is being mocked for trying to overcompensate for the absurd amount of false information spread by Trump and his moronic followers.
    The trouble is the way they frame it. They choose a side and they run with it. CNN hates Trump and will put a negative spin on everything he says and does. Fox does the opposite. There is no objectivity left in the legacy media. I don't think people are quite as brain washed as you think. They simply don't trust those people to be objective and just ignore most of it.

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    Lol, ok - you're right, but somehow you can't prove it? Lovely.

    Are you perhaps talking about the gif trump tweeted? The hillary/trump one, where he body slammed her, figuratively, in a WWE ring?
    The CNN one actually although the Golf one with Hillary was pretty funny imho.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Deadite View Post
    The trouble is the way they frame it. They choose a side and they run with it. CNN hates Trump and will put a negative spin on everything he says and does. Fox does the opposite. There is no objectivity left in the legacy media. I don't think people are quite as brain washed as you think. They simply don't trust those people to be objective and just ignore most of it.



    The CNN one actually although the Golf one with Hillary was pretty funny imho.
    Of course CNN hates Trump. The guy has consistently attacked them, and made disparaging remarks about them. He has gotten his ignorant followers to continue doing his dirty work for him, spreading ignorance and a false narrative. I'm certainly no fan of CNN, but when it comes to which is more believable, CNN is far better than Trump and his ignorant trolls. Trump has lied hundreds of times, and his supporters refuse to acknowledge it, or worse... cheer it on. Would you be objective with someone who is actively trying to destroy you company?

    CNN is not fake news. They may be a mediocre news outlet, but they are far from fake news. Trump is fake news, and has been caught spreading it far more than CNN. If you cannot see that, then you are one of those people I mentioned earlier. And yes, the memelords and praisekek brigade are brainwashed morons.

  3. #143
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    The only thing that really surprises me about this is that Trump apparently actually ponied up the cash.
    Possible reports he actually didn't. He did his typical practice of Rob Peter to pay Paul. So this time he did not use funds from his charity organization there is a case that he used campaign funds to pay her off. I mean this is very likely. Actually this is not a slight to Trump as much as many politicians would probably pull this trick. Look at John Edwards.
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  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Deadite View Post
    The media have slit their own throats with Trump. They go after him too hard. When everything Trump says or does makes him literally Hitler and they make a big song and dance about it then no one pays attention. When we get another outlandish story from 'some one close to Trump' or 'a high ranking republican' or 'someone from the White House' people just roll their eyes at this point. I think the only thing that has a lower approval rating than Trump is the media.
    So, you don't understand how journalism works. We get it.

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    How long did the WWE gif run for again?
    They ran that story, because he is attacking one of the foundations of our country, the 1st amendment because he doesn't like when people, report the stupid shit he does. He is literally inciting violence against the media. As we have seen with the latest story of a 19 year old calling CNN 22 times in 2 days saying they are fake news and that he was going to go to Atlanta and kill them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadite View Post
    The media have slit their own throats with Trump. They go after him too hard. When everything Trump says or does makes him literally Hitler and they make a big song and dance about it then no one pays attention. When we get another outlandish story from 'some one close to Trump' or 'a high ranking republican' or 'someone from the White House' people just roll their eyes at this point. I think the only thing that has a lower approval rating than Trump is the media.
    Or maybe he just does way, way more shitty retarded things than everyone else?

    Seems rather unfair to grade on a curve simply because you're a garbage person.
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  6. #146
    So, Stormy Daniels is going to be on the Jimmy Kimmel show Tuesday night after the State of the Union address.

    If she confirms the affair, she’ll be contradicting the statement Trump’s attorney presented which supposedly came from her.

    If she breaks her NDA, would Trump sue, thereby confirming it?
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    Hope Stormy is careful. A guy this paranoid he has people signing NDA's might be willing to do anything.
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    Hope Stormy is careful. A guy this paranoid he has people signing NDA's might be willing to do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrerBear View Post
    If she breaks her NDA, would Trump sue, thereby confirming it?
    I thought I read something that she signed it as Stormy Daniels, which since it's not her legal name isn't actually a legal contract?

    Also Trump would have to sue -- which his lawyers may pressure him not to as when you sue you not only bring some credibility to the statements but you also then have discovery and a trial with evidence which Trump is likely to want to avoid.

    Presumably, if this story is true, Stormy has the financial records to show the deposit, which if shared publicly would really ignite this story in a way Trump doesn't want. Especially if they can trace the money trail back to the campaign. You suddenly go from scandal to actual crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I thought I read something that she signed it as Stormy Daniels, which since it's not her legal name isn't actually a legal contract?

    Also Trump would have to sue -- which his lawyers may pressure him not to as when you sue you not only bring some credibility to the statements but you also then have discovery and a trial with evidence which Trump is likely to want to avoid.

    Presumably, if this story is true, Stormy has the financial records to show the deposit, which if shared publicly would really ignite this story in a way Trump doesn't want. Especially if they can trace the money trail back to the campaign. You suddenly go from scandal to actual crime.
    I recall a rumor that someone with many moneys said they'd foot the bill for Stormy D's shitstorm legally if she broke the NDA.
    I really want that to happen.
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  11. #151
    lol, wall street journal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I thought I read something that she signed it as Stormy Daniels, which since it's not her legal name isn't actually a legal contract?

    Also Trump would have to sue -- which his lawyers may pressure him not to as when you sue you not only bring some credibility to the statements but you also then have discovery and a trial with evidence which Trump is likely to want to avoid.

    Presumably, if this story is true, Stormy has the financial records to show the deposit, which if shared publicly would really ignite this story in a way Trump doesn't want. Especially if they can trace the money trail back to the campaign. You suddenly go from scandal to actual crime.
    Well, the NDA itself hasn't been released, so that is still firmly in the realm of speculation. We have seen the money transfer, but that is it. She is already capitalizing on the story, so I fully expect her to fan the flames of "Maybe" and never confirm or deny anything.

    She also doesn't have any real reason to torpedo Trump, she is a republican that once tried to run for a Senate seat, and doesn't seem to have any hurt feelings over this affair either. So she probably sees it as a marketing opportunity.

  13. #153
    Thinking about this some more, this really seems like a bad move by Trump's team unless they were really convinced he was going to lose the election.

    They knew journalists were poking around this story. If they were sure Trump would lose, paying some money for Stormy Daniels to keep quiet about this for a few years would have kept it from tarnishing his reputation until no one would care to risk breaking the NDA.

    But since Trump won, the NDA is essentially powerless. This payment was in October of 2016, so there will be records galore. There's no way they can sue her for breaking the NDA now, as it would just confirm all the allegations. She gets money and lots of fame for spilling the beans. Once Daniels shows proof of the payoff, which should be easy if she isn't lying, this story gets a lot more legs, such as where the money to pay her off came from (campaign funds?). Sounds like a job for a prosecutor to go digging!

    All this would mean Trump has been under threat of blackmail for sexual misconduct during his Presidency.
    And it would be a concrete example of Trump willing to categorically deny real embarrassing sexual allegations, all the while paying to silence them.

    Hmmm...
    Where have we heard about Trump under potential blackmail for embarrassing sexual exploits that he has vehemently denied before?
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  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    I thought I read something that she signed it as Stormy Daniels, which since it's not her legal name isn't actually a legal contract?
    IANAL, but that sounds vanishingly unlikely to me.

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by warlordoflordwar View Post
    lol, wall street journal.
    You mean the Wall Street Journal that is owned by the same douche that owns Fox News? Then yeah, LOL. They have been doing quite a bit of Trump sucking, but not as much as Fox News.

  16. #156
    Isn't it funny how any one of Trump's 300 mini-scandals that aren't big enough to occupy the headlines for more than a few days could've kept the Republicans going for 8 years if it was a Democrat it happened to?

    I wish I could go back in time to the 90s and tell people that the Republican President paid a pornstar hush money to cover up an extramarital affair and then lied to the American people about it, and nobody even cared.

    Quote Originally Posted by warlordoflordwar View Post
    lol, wall street journal.
    1) Ahahaha, nice try. Note sarcasm: it was a really weak ass try.
    2) It's being reported pretty much everywhere.
    3) Scuttlebutt is that Fox News had the story in 2016 and sank it:

    https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-s...-f09f5f886abe/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Isn't it funny how any one of Trump's 300 mini-scandals that aren't big enough to occupy the headlines for more than a few days could've kept the Republicans going for 8 years if it was a Democrat it happened to?

    I wish I could go back in time to the 90s and tell people that the Republican President paid a pornstar hush money to cover up an extramarital affair and then lied to the American people about it, and nobody even cared.

    1) Ahahaha, nice try. Note sarcasm: it was a really weak ass try.
    2) It's being reported pretty much everywhere.
    3) Scuttlebutt is that Fox News had the story in 2016 and sank it:

    https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-s...-f09f5f886abe/
    I bet his disdain for it is just the walllstreet part of the name... I’m guessing he hasn’t been told about the booming stock market under Trump. Trump bitching about wallstreet is so 2016...
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    NY Times: Melania was blindsided by report of payment to porn star

    First lady Melania Trump was reportedly “blindsided” by reports that her husband’s personal lawyer arranged a hush-money payment to an adult film star over an alleged affair that took place the year after her marriage to President Trump.

    The New York Times' Katie Rogers and Maggie Haberman reported Monday that news of the affair and six-figure payment made Melania Trump furious with the president, prompting her to keep a low profile in recent days. The anecdote is part of a larger story about what the story calls the Trumps' "tumultuous" relationship.

    Tuesday's State of the Union address is set to be the first lady's first public appearance since news of the affair and payment went public earlier this month.

    Though she was expected to attend the World Economic Forum in Davos with her husband, Melania Trump suddenly backed out of the trip last week, instead making a surprise visit to Mar-a-Lago.

    The first lady’s aides told the Times that she has been focusing on her “role and her family.”

    A spokesperson for Melania Trump said earlier this week that recent reports about the Trumps' marriage are “salacious” and “unrealistic scenarios being peddled daily by the fake news.”

    The Wall Street Journal on January 12 detailed an alleged $130,000 payment made just before the 2016 election to adult film star Stormy Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, to keep her quiet about a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006.

    The affair would have taken place just months after the birth of the first couple’s only child, Barron.
    Editor's note: Trump "moved on her like a bitch" as per the Access Hollywood tapes while Melania was pregnant.

    Days after the Wall Street Journal report, InTouch magazine published a 2011 interview with Clifford in which she detailed their relationship.

  19. #159
    Well, this is a strange turn of events in this already weird story that doesn't seem to go away.

    Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen now admits he paid Stormy Daniels $130,000... but out of his own pocket! (?)

    “Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly,” Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times. “The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.”

    He declined to answer several follow-up questions, including whether Mr. Trump had been aware that he made the payment, why he made the payment or whether he had made similar payments to other people over the years.
    So let's see if we can get the story straight now:
    "Trump definitely didn't have a freaky affair with the porn star, but for some reason his personal lawyer paid her $130k through an LLC right before the 2016 election... just 'cuz."

    Anyone buying it?
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  20. #160
    It was my not-hush money that I didn't pay her for not having an affair!

    Hope that clears everything up!

    *EDIT*

    Trump’s Lawyer Michael Cohen Is Shopping a Book About the First Family, Stormy Daniels, and Russia
    Michael Cohen is promising publishers a book that truly ‘understands’ the president and will explore the ‘complexities and nuances of the Trump family.’

    ...

    The proposal promises to clarify Cohen’s role in the “unfortunate saga” involving Stephanie Clifford, the porn star known as Stormy Daniels, who allegedly received $130,000 from Cohen a week before the 2016 election to stay quiet about previous sexual experiences with the then-reality-TV star Trump.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...els-and-russia

    LOLLLLLLLLLLL...

    Scratch that everyone, if you want to find out why I didn't pay that pornstar her not-hush money, you can read all about it in my new book!
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