Chiropractors what’s your experience?

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

I don't get the chiropractor hate here .. I don't want to pretend like they are magic or anything.. But in my profession a sore back is sort of expected. My doctor actually told me to see a chiropractor. It really helped. I don't like medicine. The chiropractor told em to stretch and come back once a week. My insurance covered most of it. It helped when I hurt my back at work.

[RobertoCarlos]

I don't get the chiropractor hate here .. I don't want to pretend like they are magic or anything.. But in my profession a sore back is sort of expected. My doctor actually told me to see a chiropractor. It really helped. I don't like medicine. The chiropractor told em to stretch and come back once a week. My insurance covered most of it. It helped when I hurt my back at work.

Most people are idiots. The science behind chiropractors is proven and clear. Like any profession you are gonna get good ones and bad ones. You need to go to ones with a good reputation

[cubby]

Most people are idiots. The science behind chiropractors is proven and clear. Like any profession you are gonna get good ones and bad ones. You need to go to ones with a good reputation

This, precisely. Chiropractors are a known, and beneficial, quantity. The hate here is either from ignorance or interweb jockeys just looking for an argument.

[luc54]

Do you consider results to be evidence?
There's thousands of these videos showing bone adjustments that have helped people.

There's plenty of evidence vidoes on youtube for things such as flat earth, faith healing amongst others and that doesn't prove anything. If Dr. Ian actually had proper valid evidence for efficay of his treatment, I'm quite certain he would have published these in a well trusted medical journal. Unfortunately science has actual higher standards than just simply showing how patients are healed on short video.

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This, precisely. Chiropractors are a known, and beneficial, quantity. The hate here is either from ignorance or interweb jockeys just looking for an argument.

No, the problem with chiropracry is that it smells of bullshit. It's not as regulated as modern medicine and they might also promote their treatment for something else than just your back pain which is obviousely quite big nonsense. Then there's the anti-vaccine bullshitery as well just look at this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucele.../#1cae800a5944

I think it's quite clear why people are skeptical of them. Unfortunately untill some practise is adopted into modern medicine it usually involves lot of bullshit one way or other. Not that everything in modern medicine is necessarily very effective or even necessary, but at least it's more trustworthy than this stuff.

[chrisnumbers]

that doesn't prove anything.

So you watched results occur and deny that it happened?
Ok gotcha

[luc54]

So you watched results occur and deny that it happened?
Ok gotcha

You tried to strawman me there. Just because something happens after doing something doesn't prove anything. You need to look at reasons why said result happens. You just can't link anectodal videos of something happening and then saying it will cause it. It might work for laymen, but for scientists you will need to conduct rigorous clinical studies in order to study efficacy of the treatment. If you actually have such, I wouldn't mind reading them though.

Also to be fair the anti-vaccine thing about chiropractors might be a bit unfair so I will withdraw it for now. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3743646/
What's important however that you actually follow your doctors advice and not go to chiropractor/homeopath/whatever as your first choice and ask them about possible treatments than just trusting something that isn't necessarily based in science.

[Gorgodeus]

It's utter quackery.

If that were the case, you would not see chiropractors hired by both college and professional sports teams.

[Ghostpanther]

Then I'd report them, if you have any way of doing so.

The best option is not go back to them. You can only report them if they do something really bad or have the option to sue them for malpractice. This is the US health care system after all. They are basically like a car dealer. They suck too much, they lose business. Do anything unlawful, they lose their license and/or go to jail.

[Aggrophobic]

The best option is not go back to them. You can only report them if they do something really bad or have the option to sue them for malpractice. This is the US health care system after all. They are basically like a car dealer. They suck too much, they lose business. Do anything unlawful, they lose their license and/or go to jail.

If it's like cars then just pay more. You get what you pay for after all.
It's a rather general rule so it's not unlikely to work with medical care as well.

In any case, I would much rather go to an actual doctor first and at least get their opinion on the problem.

[Ghostpanther]

If it's like cars then just pay more. You get what you pay for after all.
It's a rather general rule so it's not unlikely to work with medical care as well.

In any case, I would much rather go to an actual doctor first and at least get their opinion on the problem.

They are actual doctors. They hold a certification which says they are and need it to practice their profession. Most insurance companies will pay for regular treatments from them. Mine does.

[Laerrus]

Go to a chiropractor that has onsite radiology and chooses physical therapy over surgery. Many doctors just want your money and will recommend surgery for something that could possibly be fixed via non-invasive means like an adjustment and core strengthening. If anyone recommends surgery, ALWAYS get a 2nd opinion. I've seen way to many people with a fucked up spine because of a botched surgery. They are still coming to me for pain relief.

[Ettan]

They are actual doctors. They hold a certification which says they are and need it to practice their profession. Most insurance companies will pay for regular treatments from them. Mine does.

No, they are not actual doctors.

"Future chiropractors must earn the Doctor of Chiropractic (D.C.) degree from an accredited chiropractic college. Only a handful of schools in the United States offer this 4-year degree program. Students typically take courses and labs in anatomy and chemistry, chiropractic philosophy and diagnosis."

This education is nowhere near an education in medicine.
And while this education and its requirement will differ from country to country they are certainly not real doctors.

Just to point out; your vet, dentist and even pharmacist is much more of a doctor than a chiropractor is. It is not even close.

[Ghostpanther]

No, they are not actual doctors.

"Future chiropractors must earn the Doctor of Chiropractic (D.C.) degree from an accredited chiropractic college. Only a handful of schools in the United States offer this 4-year degree program. Students typically take courses and labs in anatomy and chemistry, chiropractic philosophy and diagnosis."

This education is nowhere near an education in medicine.
And while this education and its requirement will differ from country to country they are certainly not real doctors.

Just to point out; your vet, dentist and even pharmacist is much more of a doctor than a chiropractor is. It is not even close.

They are actual doctors. Future chiropractors must earn the Doctor of Chiropractic (D.C.)They need a license to practice their profession here like any other medical professional would. I am not saying they are equal to surgeon specialists who do major surgery. And one can make the point a oral surgeon is more of a doctor than a dentist is. Sure the training is going to differ from others. But that does not make the dentist, not a doctor. :P

As I have pointed out earlier, I do my own back exercises instead of going to them. I also will treat my own injuries myself instead of going to a physician. Unless it is something major. If was unable to control my lower back issues myself, guess what?, I will try a chiropractor before a back surgeon or even a family doctor any day.

This article explains my position. https://www.leaf.tv/articles/is-a-ch...r-a-physician/

[Arewn]

My over all impression is that chiropractor is a bunch of hocus pocus mixed in with some occasionally effective practices. There are too many made-up terms and un-backed claims, particularly in videos like the one linked in the OP.

There does seem to be some genuine effectiveness to it, but there's a lot that is reminiscent of alternative medicine/faith healing/etc.

[RobertoCarlos]

My over all impression is that chiropractor is a bunch of hocus pocus mixed in with some occasionally effective practices. There are too many made-up terms and un-backed claims, particularly in videos like the one linked in the OP.

There does seem to be some genuine effectiveness to it, but there's a lot that is reminiscent of alternative medicine/faith healing/etc.

Yes having correct spinal shape is just like faith healing /rollseyes

[Kainslife]

Most people are idiots. The science behind chiropractors is proven and clear. Like any profession you are gonna get good ones and bad ones. You need to go to ones with a good reputation

All of the studies on chiropractic suggest that it’s bullshit.

[RobertoCarlos]

All of the studies on chiropractic suggest that it’s bullshit.

What studies are those? Ones done by infowars that plug brainforce pills 5minutes later that promise to cure spinal issues?

[Boricha]

When I was ~8 I fell from a playground zip-line and hurt my back. I ended up having to make a few visits to a chiropractor and he said that I might have a bad back when I was older, but I'm 23 now and doing fine.

[Arewn]

Yes having correct spinal shape is just like faith healing /rollseyes

Having correct spinal shape is perfectly legitimate, sure. The chiropractic approach to determining whether something is wrong, how to fix it, and the unscientific explanations they sometimes give for what's wrong and how to fix it, is what I'm characterizing as pseudo-science.

It's "adherents" using anecdotal evidence and an "I swear by it" attitude doesn't help the over all impression either.

[RaoBurning]

If that were the case, you would not see chiropractors hired by both college and professional sports teams.

You're assuming college and pro sports teams are perfectly rational actors. I bet there's a non-zero amount of them that use homeopathy, too, but that doesn't make it any less garbage.

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What studies are those? Ones done by infowars that plug brainforce pills 5minutes later that promise to cure spinal issues?

The ones done by actual medical professionals.