Count Dankula found guilty of hate crime

[Theodarzna]

his reason for doing something only matters based on? what he can make people believe or the truth?

its all on fucking video

I think the "context matters" defense depends on if the accusers decide it does for personal biases.

[AwkwardSquirtle]

This baffles me as a verdict. It's clearly not supporting nazis, he literally describes them as "the least cute thing he could think of".

[Jinpachi]

This is the difference between being a subject and being a citizen.

[Deleted]

That's what's happening. Europe is starting to get saved from the racist shitweasels who have for years wrapped themselves in "don't be intolerant to my intolerance" and weaselling their way around the fringes of "free speech" without actually understanding what it is.

Fuck every one of them, and the people who cry crocodile tears over them.

I understand exactly what this video is, and do not support his conviction for it. If this is illegal, then Monty Python, South Park, Danger 5 and Iron Skies should be banned.

Why are they acceptable, but this not?

[Deleted]

free speech just isn't respected in the UK.

if you value free speech, move to the US. you'll have issues with healthcare, but at least you're not a prisoner in your own mind.

Free speech in the US? You must be kidding.

[stomination]

He says gas the jews 23 times. There's no excuse.

Yea well I actually put one inside an oven.

Good times we had.

[Aggrophobic]

Those of you living in the UK should be contacting your local MP. Speak up now while you can, before you are silenced.

[MOD VIDEO SNIP] We are not turning this thread into a call to arms. That is against our rules. You can discuss things as you please, but call to arms videos, polls, website links and similar are NOT okay.

Why? What would the UK be gaining by this? More nazis are not needed.

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Why? What would the UK be gaining by this? More nazis are not needed.

A proper law defending freedom of expression

[Wildberry]

Good. Racist belong in jail.

Cool, so when do we start rounding up the anti-white racists?

[death87]

this thread:

People conveniently ignoring the part where the guy says gas the Jews 23 times and/or saying "it's just a joke! Genocide is funny!" and making it all about the dog. ..And non-whites.

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this thread:

People conveniently ignoring the part where the guy says gas the Jews 23 times and/or saying "it's just a joke! Genocide is funny!" and making it all about the dog. ..And non-whites.

I haven't ignored that. Still do not believe it is or should be a prosecutable offense.

[Aggrophobic]

A proper law defending freedom of expression

They have that.

[Fonduset]

He shouldn't have been an idiot then and done daft controversial stuff to try and become internet famous.

[Deleted]

They have that.

We don't, really. We prosecute people for being "grossly offensive".

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He shouldn't have been an idiot then and done daft controversial stuff to try and become internet famous.

Then society-at-large should decide their opinion of him, not the courts.

[HumbleDuck]

You sir are a drama queen.

[Kaleredar]

I haven't ignored that. Still do not believe it is or should be a prosecutable offense.

saying that people shouldn't die isn't prosecutable?


Are you also for shouting fire in crowded theaters?

[Setheria]

It's possible to hold the view that this guy is a dead set wanker and to also defend the principle of free speech.

Free speech is not freedom from consequence of course, but those consequences should be ridicule, lampooning as a racist, boycotts, etc, whatever. Not jail time.

Or as Voltaire (is alleged) to have said: I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

There's an excellent Hitchen's video that is worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyoOfRog1EM

[Deleted]

saying that people shouldn't die isn't prosecutable?

Not if its a group of people (rather than an individual) clearly said on a video for comedic purposes.

Are you also for shouting fire in crowded theaters?

Not really, but unless someone made it their goal to run around in as many theaters as they could to shout "fire", I don't think it should carry a legal penalty. Just would involve you getting thrown out and blacklisted from the cinema/theater for causing a nuisance.

Totally incomparable.

[Aggrophobic]

We don't, really. We prosecute people for being "grossly offensive".

Yeah, if you promote killing parts of your own population based on thier ethnicity or religion then you're crossing the line.

[kail]

This is the slippery slope of hate speech laws. I feel as if comedians of any kind need to watch themselves if operating in the UK.

The joke was in very shitty taste IMO, but it was still a joke.

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Free speech in the US? You must be kidding.

Don't think anyone was arrested here for shit jokes.