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    When Antifa defines 90% of the earth's population as a "neo-nazi", suddenly neo-nazis are everywhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    i think u dont know what communism is
    He doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    thats not what makes communism lol
    So, how are you not preaching communist ideals? You specifically pointed to the good of the group over the good of the individual. Now, the only real question is how socialistic you are. If you always support such a thing, then you are pushing for pure communism. I happen to be at the other end of that spectrum, supporting invididual liberty over the whims of the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martymark View Post
    When Antifa defines 90% of the earth's population as a "neo-nazi", suddenly neo-nazis are everywhere!
    Can you show that is what Antifa is doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatToffer View Post
    In the 50's til 90's I think, it didn't bother to have people from Africa, because we had dirty works for them and their way of life was more malleable. Racism was present, but it is now seen as bad as it was.
    Back in 50s til 90s their brethren didn't blow innocent people to pieces. I agree, that West is partially responsible for their radicalization, however bringing them on to civilized countries won't repair the damages. They need to learn to build their own countries from scratch and live normal lives there, in their home countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, how are you not preaching communist ideals?
    humans are collectivist by nature, that does not mean communism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    i dont know what makes you think i am communist lol
    The deranged drivel that you wrote maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Actually, I'm someone who supports freedom above all else. Nationalism calls for a restriction of individual liberty and the free markets.

    Once again, which culture in the United States is that? Is it the Judeo-Christian culture that believed women and minorities did not deserve the right to vote, or that women and kids should be beaten? Is it the one that felt black people should be slaves? Is it the one that believed that atheists were scum, and did not deserve freedom?

    Exactly which culture specifically should be forced upon everyone entering into the United States?
    As many pointed out already, there is no individual liberty, even in tribal societies. You have to respect the laws, laws make us humans, laws limit individual liberty.

    Your question perfectly shows what it's mean to be someone without roots. You have no stable ground, everyone thinks that they can do whatever they want in the name of freedom, but in the end no one knows where did they really came from.

    Christian (without Judeo) culture is what we (Hungarians) accepted more than 1000 years ago to be able to preserve ourselves, our culture, language, traditions. Otherwise we would have remained a pagan tribal culture that was not unified and we would have disappeared without it. Since then, the Hungarian state exists, despite the countless conflicts in our history.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hungary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    humans are collectivist by nature, that does not mean communism
    When you always support the good of the group over the good of the individual... you are left with communism. Luckily for me, I support individual liberty over the desires of the group. The only actions/freedoms that should be restricted, are those that cause harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ermelloth View Post
    As intolerant as it may sound, growing and strengthening of Nazis is the inevitable consequence of Islamic immigration to Europe.

    What were European governments thinking? That people, except of brainwashed extreme leftists and SJWs, will be happy seeing more and more Muslims coming from Africa, Syria, etc. to their once "safe haven" countries? It had to end with the rise of right and extreme right movements. One doesn't need to be super smart to realize that.

    Want a super easy cure against the rise of the Nazists? STOP Islamic immigration at once; deport all those involved in criminal activities in Europe or affiliated with ISIS or other extremists. I guarantee, that within few years all extreme right wing parties and communities will quickly lose their supporters. Because adequate people cling to right wing parties only when they feel threatened. Take the threat away and it will stop.

    P.S. Don't take me wrong. I absolutely despise Nazis and Nazism altogether; however, I name EU leaders solely responsible for everything.
    Yes kicking all the muslims immigrants from germany really worked back in 1933

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorkreist View Post
    The deranged drivel that you wrote maybe.
    saying that u as an individual and ur wants and needs is secondary to the collectives wants and needs is not communism lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    When you always support the good of the group over the good of the individual... you are left with communism. Luckily for me, I support individual liberty over the desires of the group. The only actions/freedoms that should be restricted, are those that cause harm.
    no, thats not what communism is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonol View Post
    As many pointed out already, there is no individual liberty, even in tribal societies. You have to respect the laws, laws make us humans, laws limit individual liberty.

    Your question perfectly shows what it's mean to be someone without roots. You have no stable ground, everyone thinks that they can do whatever they want in the name of freedom, but in the end no one knows where did they really came from.

    Christian (without Judeo) culture is what we (Hungarians) accepted more than 1000 years ago to be able to preserve ourselves, our culture, language, traditions. Otherwise we would have remained a pagan tribal culture that was not unified and we would have disappeared without it. Since then, the Hungarian state exists, despite the countless conflicts in our history.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hungary
    How very authoritarian of you to say.

    Not everyone in your country has the same culture, so what are you going to do to make sure they all have the exact same culture?

    Let's be honest, it's not about having a single culture, it's about getting rid of the cultures you simply don't like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    saying that u as an individual and ur wants and needs is secondary to the collectives wants and needs is not communism lol

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    no, thats not what communism is
    Is "nuh uh" your only response?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mlz View Post
    Orginal culture.... that lived there for hundreds/thousands of years...

    An example of why not only teaching but actually understanding the dynamics and constantly changing nature of cultures is so important. You are using an idealised and romaticised concepts of history to fuel your arguments and drive your agenda.
    Ok, now you can commit suicide and give up your family, your house, your life in the name of equality, because 10 african children needs your roof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ermelloth View Post
    Back in 50s til 90s their brethren didn't blow innocent people to pieces. I agree, that West is partially responsible for their radicalization, however bringing them on to civilized countries won't repair the damages. They need to learn to build their own countries from scratch and live normal lives there, in their home countries.
    We need to get the fuck out of their countries and stop supporting shit leaders for oil for that to happen. West is not just partially responsible for radicalization. Remember that guy Ossama who was CIA trained to kill russians ? Funny how that turned out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Is "nuh uh" your only response?
    when u dont know what communism is u cant say something is communism just because it shares some aspects with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    When you always support the good of the group over the good of the individual... you are left with communism. Luckily for me, I support individual liberty over the desires of the group. The only actions/freedoms that should be restricted, are those that cause harm.
    Let's say you have a baseball team. You tell your hitter to make a sacrifice hit / bunt, you tell him it's for the good of the team. Or maybe the couch benches a pitcher, even though the pitcher want's to close out the game?

    Would you consider that communism?
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    Voting for a conservative party = nazism. Ok. I get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatToffer View Post
    We need to get the fuck out of their countries and stop supporting shit leaders for oil for that to happen.
    That too. But now it's a bit more problematic since Russia got tied themselves up with Iran and Assad, which are huge assholes. So, if West completely gets out of the region, it will be ruled by Putin, backed up by legion of russian "ura-patriots" (a group of about 75% of Russian population, consisting of pensioners, commoners, drunkards, Stalinists, russian right wing, neonazists, etc.).

    Since my mother tongue is Russian, I often read Russian forums and the level of HATRED a common Russian feels for the West (particularly USA) is scary. I often encounter posts about blowing up Washington, for example. Russians also blame USA and EU in everything bad that happened to them since USSR split up; of course, I'm talking mostly about bottom of Russian society. The problem is, however, that around 80% of Russia's population make this "bottom" - cultural, progressive, liberal, well-educated people are a minority there. While all the bottom strongly supports Putinizm.

    You realize that with Putin and his retrograde supporters in power, Russia cannot be allowed to gain more political weight.

    P.S. Still, the sooner West moves out of their countries, the better. Let Saudi Arabia, etc. sort things out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Let's be honest, it's not about having a single culture, it's about getting rid of the cultures you simply don't like.
    No, it's about getting rid of a culture that does more harm than good.

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    Also wtf is that about Communism rising in France ? Current laws and government decisions are turning our country closer and closer into shitty liberal (economic liberal, don't get me wrong) USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyv3r View Post
    How is "brown-shirts" patrolling the street diferent from pink haired "anti-fa" spitting in my face telling me i should kill myself for being a white heterosexual male?
    the diffrence is simpel, but it is this simplicity that makes it ugly and scary and therefor no one realy wants to touch this topic apart from the so called nazis. The "anti-fa" in there core are a tool for the communists, and communisem stryve's for the death of the white Europian race by the promotion of everything that is anit white family's, first they went for the women with feminism, where they split up the family with making women hate there white men. then they started with the race mixing (have you notice how white men are always made to look like complet retarts in commercials and in moves) but a male from a other race is painted like a sexy god. then there is the (((media))) that is fulling the anti white hatred "mostly white heterosexual males but latly even white women and white gays are being targeted" it goes somthing like this, if a black or a immegant comits a crime and is arrested or ends up dead by the police the (((media))) makes a shit show of it and blames this on white raceisem even if the police is a mexican, but if the black or immegant kills or rapes and robes white folk (((media))) silance,
    antifa are racist as hell agenst white folk. the "brown-shirts" as you put it ,want what is best for the white race, they want the right to control there own fates for themselves in a nation for them and them alone (i once heard a nice saying one folk one kingdom and one leader). but this is not a right they only want for themselve no they want all the other races to have the same right. as thing are right now we white europians are not in control of ower own fate, no we have a (alian race) and there banking system that is ruling over us, and if you dare question or even notice this your called every name under the sun(racist,misogyny,nazi, anti semetic and so on) and they will do everything in there power to destroy your life, this i know you have seen, they will try and dox you call your place of work to get you fired. hell just asking the question you have asked will get you so much shit, but ya diffrens if antifa wants white europians dead and national socialists want white countrys for white folk and the other races countrys for the other races, ooo and just if somone ask but but what about the minorities, in the world live 7.6 billon people and we white folk are already the minorities we are only 8% of the world population so never let enyone use that was a argument, hehe ops i went on a rant

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