Battle for Azeroth Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[GoodUsername55]

I really don't want any more alternate timeline draenor. God that was such a bad decision. It's the worst storytelling I've ever seen from a game I've played personally. Besides, Call of Duty or something.

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[Magnagarde]

Yeah, in another quest you even take down the sentinax with it. When the alliance troops spawned a draenei wave (on both sides) in the battle for lordaeron I almost fell of my chair laughing when they brought some crystal-porn balistae to the fight. That was just so ludicrous and forced low tech, I couldn't hold it .

Yeah, those contraptions look ridiculous.

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THe solution is to have goblins just stuff the Bilgewater Cannon with Azerite and fire it. Sure, the blast will disintegrate Azshara and most of Orgrimmar, but they will take the Vindicar down with them!

I highly doubt it can even take aim at something in the orbit or on the other side of the world while succesfully managing to hit it. It's the equivalent of hitting a fly mid-flight with a sniper rifle on the other end of a football pitch.

[Deleted]

Stop right there, there is only so much excitement my Vol de Tort can handle.

Ahh the good old french dessert from the speculation era. Gimme a slice!

[huth]

I highly doubt it can even take aim at something in the orbit or on the other side of the world while succesfully managing to hit it. It's the equivalent of hitting a fly mid-flight with a sniper rifle on the other end of a football pitch.

It's quite likely the force to utterly destroy the cannon is well below what is needed to get the shot anywhere even remotely close to the ship anyway, so aiming is right out. Basically, the sniper is trying to make the shot with a 16th century wheellock pistol with way to much powder in the barrel.

[Drekmar]

I really don't want any more alternate timeline draenor. God that was such a bad decision. It's the worst storytelling I've ever seen from a game I've played personally. Besides, Call of Duty or something.

AU is a fucking mess and they bring it back with AU Orcs. Wonder which twat came up with it.

[rcshaggy]

So did that Zandalari Exile helping the Guard appear in Vol'dun at all?

[EbaumsTipster]

Bloo bloo bloo, Outland orcs would've been boring as sin.

[GoodUsername55]

Bloo bloo bloo, Outland orcs would've been boring as sin.

No they wouldn't.

AU is an abomination that should have never came up again.

Literally nothing has to change with mag'har except for saying they're from outland. The orcs we saw in AU draenor are carbon copies of MU, the only difference being there are not as many and almost extinct, which void elves proved doesn't matter.

Good thing i don't primarily play horde anymore, i don't wanna deal with time travel horsecrap.

[Fahrad Wagner]

wasnt Rexxar the last of his kind or something alike after wc3?

Nope, there are Mok'nathal back in Outland! Well if they're not dead by now for some random reason.

[Deleted]

AU is a fucking mess and they bring it back with AU Orcs. Wonder which twat came up with it.

AU Draenor works best if you accept/assume that a lot of story development happened in between 6.1 and 6.2, and then some more after we kiled Archimonde. The way the story was presented in-game was an absolute mess, but I like to think that *something* happened inside the scrapped Shattrath raid that explained the Orcs and Draenei working together toward the end.

Either that or you can just make the Mag'har being from Outland headcannon and live an equally happy life, I suppose.

[Drekmar]

AU Draenor works best if you accept/assume that a lot of story development happened in between 6.1 and 6.2, and then some more after we kiled Archimonde. The way the story was presented in-game was an absolute mess, but I like to think that *something* happened inside the scrapped Shattrath raid that explained the Orcs and Draenei working together toward the end.

Either that or you can just make the Mag'har being from Outland headcannon and live an equally happy life, I suppose.

How do you explain the existence of one legion over multiple realities and the duplicity of demons then?

[Steampunkette]

How do you explain the existence of one legion over multiple realities and the duplicity of demons then?

[Drekmar]

More like magically shitty writing.

[Steampunkette]

More like magically shitty writing.

I don't disagree that it's magically shitty writing. But think of it this way:

Alternate-reality Draenor exists in a pocket dimension. A "Bubble" if you will off of Azeroth's Reality. This bubble was created by the Bronze Dragon and Garrosh, and exists as an adjunct in a world which looks, feels, and acts like Draenor once did, but whose timeline is separated. However, the reality that bubble contains is, exclusively, the planet of Draenor. There is no Alternate Azeroth or Alternate Twisting Nether. No second Emerald Dream. Just Draenor and it's contents.

Like a Pimple on the ass end of reality (which, coincidentally, is much of the playerbase's opinion of the expansion!) it drifts through time at an altered point of history, but does not actually represent an entire separate reality.

In such a circumstance, the single Burning Legion that exists can go to that alternate Draenor in the same way as they can transfer into the Shadowlands, the Nether, the Emerald Dream, or any other alternate plane of existence, through magic.

[leviathonlx]

How do you explain the existence of one legion over multiple realities and the duplicity of demons then?

You referring to the idea of 'why didn't the Legion just go for an Azeroth in another timeline'? While Blizzard decided to not build up on the time travel aspect with all the shit WoD cut the main thing that made the AU Draenor stable was the artifact Kairoz used. Otherwise the timelines that were created always were unstable and collapsed.

[Chickat]

Are world quests any different so far?

[Dagoth Ur]

The Tortollans seem to be the Kirin Tor of BfA with game quests. THey have a memory match quest.

I bet they'll have their own version of that Kirin Tor shell game with actual shells!

[Drekmar]

You referring to the idea of 'why didn't the Legion just go for an Azeroth in another timeline'? While Blizzard decided to not build up on the time travel aspect with all the shit WoD cut the main thing that made the AU Draenor stable was the artifact Kairoz used. Otherwise the timelines that were created always were unstable and collapsed.

No, i'm talking about the duplicity of demons, specifically duplicity of Manari Eradars.
For example:
In TBC we killed Socrethar in MU and his sould went to twisting nether.
In WoD we meet Exarch Othaar (Socrethar) still as a non-demon and during leveling experience he becomes demon.

I don't disagree that it's magically shitty writing. But think of it this way:

Alternate-reality Draenor exists in a pocket dimension. A "Bubble" if you will off of Azeroth's Reality. This bubble was created by the Bronze Dragon and Garrosh, and exists as an adjunct in a world which looks, feels, and acts like Draenor once did, but whose timeline is separated. However, the reality that bubble contains is, exclusively, the planet of Draenor. There is no Alternate Azeroth or Alternate Twisting Nether. No second Emerald Dream. Just Draenor and it's contents.

Like a Pimple on the ass end of reality (which, coincidentally, is much of the playerbase's opinion of the expansion!) it drifts through time at an altered point of history, but does not actually represent an entire separate reality.

In such a circumstance, the single Burning Legion that exists can go to that alternate Draenor in the same way as they can transfer into the Shadowlands, the Nether, the Emerald Dream, or any other alternate plane of existence, through magic.

Then which legion contacted Gul'dan before AU got connected to MU?

TBF It would be nice if blizzard fixed all this mess in chronicles.

[Steampunkette]

No, i'm talking about the duplicity of demons, specifically duplicity of Manari Eradars.
For example:
In TBC we killed Socrethar in MU and his sould went to twisting nether.
In WoD we meet Exarch Othaar (Socrethar) still as a non-demon and during leveling experience he becomes demon.

That gets into philosophical questions.

If an alternate Draenor exists where alternate Durotan exists, does the alternate Durotan have a soul?

Is that soul equal to the soul of Durotan who died in the main timeline on Azeroth?

Is it the same soul, called back into the new body?

If that is how it works, how can Velen on both Draenor and Azeroth have a soul at the same time? Is it shared?

The simplest answer is: The other Othaar had his own soul in the alternate universe. And THAT Othaar was a separate metaphysical entity from the Othaar that became Socrethar in our reality. So when he later became Socrethar, it was a different individual with the same name. A different entity.

[Chickat]

Exactly. You get a board with 16 turtle shells, turn them around two at a time, have to match all the objects hidden behind the shells

Fun part is, the quest spawned right at the pier in Zuldazar. If you get close enough to activate it, you may aggro a thresadon that is patrolling nearby which interrupts the world quest. So you need to kill that mob to complete this, only then you'll have to swim around and back to the quest because the pier is too high even for a demon hunter to jump back up to.

Hopefully the fix that.