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    Why Not Use The Vindicaar?

    Okay so why can't the alliance use the vindicaar to space destroy the horde? At that destroy the Banshee Queen from space. We have a space ship so use it! If we used it the horde would be like we sorry bro.

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    Why would they do it now when they're not at war currently?
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    Why would they do it now when they're not at war currently?
    Could have been used at the start to bomb the queen and call it a day

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    Well....because then there wouldn't be a game! It would be World of Alliance Craft where we have Eastern Kingdom and the huge ocean that used to be Kalimdor and Zandalar....chances are everyone will be super light zealots and..game over Bad end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterymask View Post
    Well....because then there wouldn't be a game! It would be World of Alliance Craft where we have Eastern Kingdom and the huge ocean that used to be Kalimdor and Zandalar....chances are everyone will be super light zealots and..game over Bad end.
    Lol all will be space goats! But for reals we could have used the ship to scout the whole planet. Kill the queen before ice crown etc

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    So one person orchestrating a war to get both sides soldiers killed makes the entire faction evil but mass genocide is ok? Seems legit.

    The alliance has a history of wiping out innocents so it would fit with the lore for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerus View Post
    So one person orchestrating a war to get both sides soldiers killed makes the entire faction evil but mass genocide is ok? Seems legit.

    The alliance has a history of wiping out innocents so it would fit with the lore for sure.
    Na just kill all the undead seems they have been the problem for a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by komlit View Post
    Okay so why can't the alliance use the vindicaar to space destroy the horde? At that destroy the Banshee Queen from space. We have a space ship so use it! If we used it the horde would be like we sorry bro.
    I am going to guess it is just something with the weapons. We see the lightforged deployed during the Drustvar assaults. So they still have "beaming" technology. The matrix core could have been damaged or burn out which is causing the weapons and stuff to not really work.

    Or the lightforged simply have principles on orbital bombardment. It would be nice if they would at least explain it even if it is hand wave phrase.
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    People bitching about Jaina bringing a ship she dredged up from the Ocean to Lordaeron but no one wondering why the Vindicaar wasn't used to just glass the whole place from the air. Or role up on Orgrimmar with the rebels.

    Because Blizzard needs to retain some vestige of "power balance" between the Alliance and Horde. Just like how, suddenly, the Alliance lost "too many" to provide an army to assault Orgrimmar, despite winning the battles in Dazar'alor, Arathi, and Darkshore, and their only loss being some warships out in the middle of the ocean while chasing Nathanos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    I am going to guess it is just something with the weapons. We see the lightforged deployed during the Drustvar assaults. So they still have "beaming" technology. The matrix core could have been damaged or burn out which is causing the weapons and stuff to not really work.

    Or the lightforged simply have principles on orbital bombardment. It would be nice if they would at least explain it even if it is hand wave phrase.
    Ya would like to know to we use it there why not elsewhere

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    The main deflector ray was damaged by a bombing run when the Vindicaar Soared over Yavin 4.
    Fareesa Janeway managed to repaired the teleporter room, but the gun was beyond saving.

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    Same reason we don't toss nukes at every country that we're at war with.

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    wasn't the power matrix damaged in the attack on Antorus right before Imonar? then again..they used the gun to blast open the doors right after that fight..

    was it even mentioned again after the sword stab?
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    Quote Originally Posted by komlit View Post
    Okay so why can't the alliance use the vindicaar to space destroy the horde? At that destroy the Banshee Queen from space. We have a space ship so use it! If we used it the horde would be like we sorry bro.
    well why didnt horde use the bilgewater cannon in azshara?
    or, why didnt horde use manabombs, they sure know how to make them, and had a "great" test run in theramore...
    or why not blighting all alliance teritories?
    or why didnt horde create portal to sw and send kill squad to kill leaders, or bomb squad to blow up the city?
    or, assuming horde mages cant create portal directly to sw (some magical protection) why not create portal ABOVE sw and throw in all bombs they have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB8 View Post
    The main deflector ray was damaged by a bombing run when the Vindicaar Soared over Yavin 4.
    Fareesa Janeway managed to repaired the teleporter room, but the gun was beyond saving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    well why didnt horde use the bilgewater cannon in azshara?
    or, why didnt horde use manabombs, they sure know how to make them, and had a "great" test run in theramore...
    or why not blighting all alliance teritories?
    or why didnt horde create portal to sw and send kill squad to kill leaders, or bomb squad to blow up the city?
    or, assuming horde mages cant create portal directly to sw (some magical protection) why not create portal ABOVE sw and throw in all bombs they have?
    Simple reason. Vindicaar doesn't belong to the Alliance. It's a Naaru ship commanded by Velen. It's like saying - why BE don't use the Tempest Keep and bomb us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazozourus View Post
    Simple reason. Vindicaar doesn't belong to the Alliance. It's a Naaru ship commanded by Velen. It's like saying - why BE don't use the Tempest Keep and bomb us.
    thats not answer to my questions
    and tbh, its not really naaru ship, drenei build it from naaru components, but it still belong to them i guess

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    Because the hack writers at Blizzard forgot to write it out of the story and just pretend that it doesn't exist, since actually using a flying vessel capable of interstellar space flight, beaming and orbital bombardment is like the most broken shit you can have in your medivial fantasy story. It should never have been written into the story in the first place or it's fuel should have at least been expended during our fight from the seat of the pantheon. They had the perfect chance to damage it with Sargeras swiping at it as well...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    well why didnt horde use the bilgewater cannon in azshara?
    or, why didnt horde use manabombs, they sure know how to make them, and had a "great" test run in theramore...
    or why not blighting all alliance teritories?
    or why didnt horde create portal to sw and send kill squad to kill leaders, or bomb squad to blow up the city?
    or, assuming horde mages cant create portal directly to sw (some magical protection) why not create portal ABOVE sw and throw in all bombs they have?
    Your examples are not as clear cut.
    - The retarded contraption in Azshara is pure comedic relief and has about the same chance of successfully working as a million goblin devices in series. It being aimed at stormwind is complete and utter lunacy from any of the established rules of the franchise. This thing would have to fire ICMBs (which make cannon itself pointless) to achieve what it is suppsed to do.
    - They could use smaller mana bombs, but apparently they don't come cheap and the one used in theramore was amplified massively by the focusing iris, which has has since been secured somewhere out of the hordes reach.
    - Well sylvanas used it. Problem most of the other horde races don't really like blight either, kind of a hard sell.
    - In lore portals are actually something difficult to make and enemy cities usually ward against it. Occuleth kind of throws a monkey wrench into that, so the horde probably should be able to use this more freely (compared to lotr rip-off eagles.. lol).

    Last one is actually very valid. The existance of magic would alter combat way more than most writers are capable of grasping. Villy-nilly teleporting around the place should be a big NO in your fantasy setting and only work under certain circumstances, otherwise you just create plotholes like here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazozourus View Post
    Simple reason. Vindicaar doesn't belong to the Alliance. It's a Naaru ship commanded by Velen. It's like saying - why BE don't use the Tempest Keep and bomb us.
    It doesn't belong to some naaru (which is dead anyway), it belongs to the army of light or more specific the lightforged draenei, which are part of the alliance. And technically that is only true for the crystalls, the actual foundation of the ship belongs to the draenei and velen.

    Tempestkeep belongs to some Naaru in outland though and was hijacked by some Blood Elf rebells that Kael'has lead. So the horde has no connection to it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerus View Post
    So one person orchestrating a war to get both sides soldiers killed makes the entire faction evil but mass genocide is ok? Seems legit.

    The alliance has a history of wiping out innocents so it would fit with the lore for sure.
    They could at least have used it to defend Teldrassil. It's like .... next door. After that they could've crash landed on Orgrimmar. Nothing of value would have been lost.


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    Because the Alliance would win and Blizzard won't let that happen.

    Also, it'd be an example of Good-aligned characters using something they have to win which is a double no.
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