I believe that Mage water elementals are artificial constructs that lack the sentience of those who shaman call on.
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Odyn is indeed awful, but the player is never shown his crimes. Helya is absolutely the victim, but we've only been shown the one side of the story in-game.
I think Sylvy wasn’t planning to burn Teldrassil at first. She wanted to kill Malfurion. But that got screwed up, so she burned the tree to spark the kind of war she needed, and to compensate for not sending a near godlike Druid to beef up the Maw.
They are not. In Legion it was stated that mages don't trust them but some cryomancers befriended them.
It would be nice if there was a possibility to read her version of saga.Odyn is indeed awful, but the player is never shown his crimes. Helya is absolutely the victim, but we've only been shown the one side of the story in-game.
Well, Sunwell Plateu was lorewise important raid for the blood elves, yet the Alliance got credit for it. I think that Nighthold is gonna be one of those raids where the credit is either given to both factions or neither, since the heroes of the Legion expansion are (at the time) neutral class order leaders. Not to mention that in Nazjatar, Thalyssra mentions how both factions helped her reclaim Suramar and we can see both Liadrin and Vereesa in the Nighthold cinematic (even though they didn't take part in the actual fight). I wouldn't be surprised if Gul'dan canonically taunted members of each faction right before the fight. Even if he predicted the events of Shadowlands, it doesn't really change the fact that he was just trying to get under his opponents' skin.
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That just means she intended to murder a whole hell of a lot of people. She still could've been making snap decisions on the specifics.
Killing Malfurion, then occupying Teldrassil and starting a war, would've been just as effective. Since she missed Malfy, she just killed everyone else.
The lantern might not have whatever use we think it has, but Sylvanas literally says in the cinematic "Submit, for the Val'kyr are mine."
Whatever she wanted to do with the Val'kyr, she is enslaving Eyir. We can see it happening in front of us. Sylvanas is telling her to submit to her.
Yeah, when i heard that i ended up getting the impression she was trying to enslave Eyir in order to have her and her valkyr start sending the souls they claim to the maw instead of to Odyn or where ever else they end up.
Doesn't change the fact Sylvanas was still being an evil shitstain and enslaving things though.
TEA IS DOWN!
Sylvanas is what you get when you cross Joffrey Baratheon with a mary sue. Change my mind. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's where I've been leaning every since they made a point at Blizzcon to mention not all souls are equal, the greater ones yielding more anima that is used in the Shadowlands. It's pretty clear that Malfurion would be a massive anima boon to the Maw, and having lost that a tree full of dead Nightelves may be a good second.
On that same note, that should say something concerning her ultimate motives, of which we still don't know and can only speculate. If the above turns out to be true, there is weight in the choice of killing Malfurion before resorting to burning down Teldrassil. On some level, I think the story is going to lead Sylvannas into still caring on some level about the world, and that her ultimate motivations are to save Azeroth in some capacity. To that end, her initial choice of orchestrating the killing off a few big sources of anima versus just mass killing of people of lesser anima to the same end sort of reflects upon what her actual motivations may be. Doesn't mean she can't be misguided and performing deeds that can be viewed as evil, but her character is portrayed as a lot more calculating than just being a chaotic mass murderer.
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“Society is endangered not by the great profligacy of a few, but by the laxity of morals amongst all.”
“It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights — the 'right' to education, the 'right' to health care, the 'right' to food and housing. That's not freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the rations of slavery — hay and a barn for human cattle.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville