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There was a lot of debate about this. I was instantly turned off by Torghast because it reminded me too much of rifts. I fielded criticism that it had nothing to do with rifts, well, now we have official confirmation that WoW devs specifically consulted D3 devs to get insight on designing Torghast. So there is strong rift influence in its design and likely going forward with the game mode.
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2020-07-25, 04:57 PM #1Old God
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WoW devs picked the brains of Diablo 3 devs about rifts to design Torghast
TO FIX WOW:1. smaller server sizes & server-only LFG awarding satchels, so elite players help others. 2. "helper builds" with loom powers - talent trees so elite players cast buffs on low level players XP gain, HP/mana, regen, damage, etc. 3. "helper ilvl" scoring how much you help others. 4. observer games like in SC to watch/chat (like twitch but with MORE DETAILS & inside the wow UI) 5. guild leagues to compete with rival guilds for progression (with observer mode).6. jackpot world mobs.
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2020-07-25, 05:01 PM #2Bloodsail Admiral
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Its just your opinion, we are nor interested on it. For me personal - i liked rifts and grifts.
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2020-07-25, 05:02 PM #3Dreadlord
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Nice, I love rifts. Going rifts is much more fun than Island Expeditions.
Definitly b-.. oh wait.. I already did.
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2020-07-25, 05:02 PM #4The Lightbringer
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Well, goodbye then.
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2020-07-25, 05:05 PM #5Bloodsail Admiral
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I bet, despite that declaration, it will not be the last thread about Shadowlands made by the OP.
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2020-07-25, 05:08 PM #6Scarab Lord
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Cya in shadowlands
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2020-07-25, 05:16 PM #7Titan
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I enjoyed Rifts in Diablo 3 when I played it so this isn't a bad thing. Torghat itself is looking to be way more "roguelike" than Rifts are so I don't see an issue.
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2020-07-25, 05:21 PM #8The Undying
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Didn't we already know that? Specificially, that they got help on the technical side of things from the D3 devs, not on the gameplay, since that is actually significantly different.
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2020-07-25, 05:23 PM #9Herald of the Titans
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The only thing bad about rifts were the timers. Made it so you could use the builds you liked because they were too slow. So if Torghast is going to be like rifts then thats fine. Far better then being roguelike.
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2020-07-25, 05:25 PM #10Dreadlord
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Sure, I get the concern. Overlap between Diablo and WoW is usually never a good thing.
But I'll take it from this post that you played BFA? In no realm of possibility is a GRIFT remotely as bad as Island Expeditions or whatever Warfronts were. And if you were exhausting timers in GRIFTS you were playing OBSCENELY bad.
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2020-07-25, 05:25 PM #11High Overlord
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Part of the plan with torghast is making a seemless proceduraly generated map for players to explore. Why would you like consult the Devs who did that in one of your companies own games? Then they are adding more layers on top of that that aren't like rifts...
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2020-07-25, 05:27 PM #12Spam Assassin!
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The entire Diablo series was originally based on roguelikes. That's fine. I love roguelike games and have played them like, forever. Nothing really else to say about the OP except that everyone has opinions. He/she likely won't be missed.
Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock
In any case, actual gameplay in WoW won't be anything at all like Diablo. It will be like WoW so it's dumb to prejudge just based on who someone talked to.
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2020-07-25, 05:29 PM #13The Patient
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And so what? "A reminds me of B" is not a valid criticism without explaining what you don't like about B and how A has similar elements. Originally Posted by Kokolums
Also, we had Mythic plus for what? Four? Five years already? And those are a) greater rifts adapted to WoW mechanics and b) most popular high-end activity in WoW.
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2020-07-25, 05:30 PM #14Pit Lord
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2020-07-25, 05:33 PM #15Legendary!
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blizz been copying parts of diablo 3 into wow for a long time.
primarily because they want to make it a mindless cash cow with cheap to make yet very repeatable (and repetitive) content.
surely thats one of the reason they dumbed down the classes to the point they are simpler than the ones in diablo3.
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2020-07-25, 05:38 PM #16Scarab Lord
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The rift system (and adventure mode, which is basically an add-on on top of that) basically revived Diablo 3 from being a completely scuffed dead game and made it into an enjoyable experience that it still is until today. I don't see how it's a bad thing to draw inspiration from that. If anything, it's a good idea.
At the same though, this still doesn't mean that torghas is exactly the same as D3 rifts, it means it has elements similar to it potentially, which is kind of obvious to everyone because it's a basic deep dungeon present also in FF14 for example.
Not sure why you think people care if you're buying SL or not, though.Armory Link
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2020-07-25, 05:39 PM #17Scarab Lord
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Dang you already asked. Originally Posted by Darth Phayde
Well Op if you give me all your gold instead I promise to give you at least 10 gold back when you inevitably return.
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2020-07-25, 05:41 PM #18Legendary!
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Torghast has been one of the best recieved features released in wow. Never have there been more hype and attention around any alpha/beta feature like there has with torghast. So great idea then from the wow devs that talked to the diablo devs. Op is just complaining for the sake of it
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2020-07-25, 05:49 PM #19Banned
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You're telling me random generated terrain was helped coming to life by people who understands how random generated terrain works? wow, no way, what on earth, how dare they?
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2020-07-25, 05:52 PM #20Old God
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If it only was about random generated terrain... Originally Posted by Trinkie
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