In TBC a top tier guild rerolled and cleared all content in 1 week, who was it?

[xxseanathanxx2005]

I was in Staysafe's stream earlier and he seems to think that guilds will not be able to steamroll BC the way Classic was steamrolled. It made me remember that a high end guild back in TBC (I think NIhilum??) rerolled factions and cleared all top end content IN ONE WEEK near the end of the expansion in TBC. I feel that if the talents are how they were in the last few patches of Black Temple or Sunwell that the content will get easily cleared immediately.

Which guild was it? I tried to look it up but cannot find any details about it but definitely remember reading here on MMO Champ that a top end guild did the above feat.

[Super Kami Dende]

the IoQD Badge of Justice system, Magister's Terrace and the profession specialisations at the end of TBC allowed you to gear up very fast. Talents weren't the factor in this situation.

[Rtrain]

I was in Staysafe's stream earlier and he seems to think that guilds will not be able to steamroll BC the way Classic was steamrolled. It made me remember that a high end guild back in TBC (I think NIhilum??) rerolled factions and cleared all top end content IN ONE WEEK near the end of the expansion in TBC. I feel that if the talents are how they were in the last few patches of Black Temple or Sunwell that the content will get easily cleared immediately.

Which guild was it? I tried to look it up but cannot find any details about it but definitely remember reading here on MMO Champ that a top end guild did the above feat.

Death and taxes went Blackrock horde. Several players were already geared on horde, however.And they recruited other players to fill spots.

Tbc will get rolled, it gets rolled on private servers already and they have 4x modifiers to health and stuff like that. It’s definitely a step up from vanilla though

[FelPlague]

I was in Staysafe's stream earlier and he seems to think that guilds will not be able to steamroll BC the way Classic was steamrolled. It made me remember that a high end guild back in TBC (I think NIhilum??) rerolled factions and cleared all top end content IN ONE WEEK near the end of the expansion in TBC. I feel that if the talents are how they were in the last few patches of Black Temple or Sunwell that the content will get easily cleared immediately.

Which guild was it? I tried to look it up but cannot find any details about it but definitely remember reading here on MMO Champ that a top end guild did the above feat.

Warlock's BIS till sunwell was a begining crafting set (shadoweave) yeah, idk what staysafe is talking about, but the dude also said the same thing about vanilla "its gunna take weeks for people to beat each raid, even months for places like AQ and nax"

[Vakna]

Death and taxes went Blackrock horde. Several players were already geared on horde, however.And they recruited other players to fill spots.

Tbc will get rolled, it gets rolled on private servers already and they have 4x modifiers to health and stuff like that. It’s definitely a step up from vanilla though

To be expected, you can't replicate true progress when you were still learning the fights.

[Nevardcire]

I just liked how op feral druids were at the start of that expansion. I was clearing things solo that were wiping full groups

[Axeros]

Guess he doesnt mean Paragon.
But they did something similar. At Lightnings Blade we were guilds ( Brethren and SImulacrum) battling for server first entire TBC. At the end of TBC when SWP was open for some months and both guild struggle at Muru. Those guys came out of nowhere and steamrolled SWP in week, or even in few days?
But they didnt reroll. As i recall right they came to Lightnings blade from multiple realm and jsut few of them lvl new char

[Bigbazz]

Played on a private server with content tuned harder than it was originally and we steam rolled everything, same reasons you can steam roll Classic only without the annoyances like world buffs. Depends what crafting patterns are available or whatever and sure it's a lot harder than Classic but it will get roflstomped by any skilled and determined guild.

Content is released in chunks anyway so you will never see this. But no its not possible to somehow hit level 70 and in a week and then just clear everything from Kara to Sunwell, unless you're talking WOTLK pre-patch where people were doing like 80% more dps and bosses were nerfed heavily (30% across the board I think).

People on MMO do like to count their WOTLK prepatch kills as TBC kills, seen it brought up before, that's a joke.

[Alvito]

I feel that if the talents are how they were in the last few patches of Black Temple or Sunwell that the content will get easily cleared immediately.

Of course it will be cleared quickly. There is nothing to learn as far as mechanics go and people will know ahead of time how to gear and what specs they will want. The first few guilds didn't know mages would become dog shit at the end of Sunwell for example.

[Saltysquidoon]

He's wrong, just like the people that said vanilla was hard were wrong, just like the people who claim prog players in TBC and wrath were better then mythic raiders today are wrong.

Seriously nostalgia jerking aside. Comparing players in the past to modern players is like comparing an ancient greek olympian to a modern one, discounting the scientific, dietary and technical advantages and believing the ancient greek is better because 'they had it tough'.

It's a nonsense.

[Mendzia]

I was in Staysafe's stream earlier and he seems to think that guilds will not be able to steamroll BC the way Classic was steamrolled.

It will be harder but still steamrolled.

It made me remember that a high end guild back in TBC (I think NIhilum??) rerolled factions and cleared all top end content IN ONE WEEK near the end of the expansion in TBC.

Nihilum merged with SK Gaming and became Ensidia at that time but i am not sure if it is the guild you are looking for.

I feel that if the talents are how they were in the last few patches of Black Temple or Sunwell that the content will get easily cleared immediately.

Yes.

[Cracked]

Expecting a challenge from content people know through and through is ridiculous, truly. In general, fights were never really hard. Look into each raid's history, all except the hardest 1/2 fights are usually killed without knowing anything but basics within a few attempts. The end bosses require execution, but what is execution but knowledge of the fight?? How do you expect it to be 'hard'???


There are only very few fights in the ENTIRE WoW history that if rereleased with the same setting I believe would take more than a few attempts to clear. Archimonde Mythic comes to mind, especially if you can no longer create the radar.

[Myr010]

bear in mind that at the end of TBC all bosses had their health nerfed by 30%, you could 2 man kara... and healing was a joke, just get a couple of holy priests to spam circle of healing which was instant had no cooldown and was a smart heal at the time

I do expect organised guilds to steamroll most of the raids in TBC even without these nerfs however it will certainly not be as pug friendly as classic, there are a number of bosses that will cause issues for Pugs, for example

magtheridon
Vashj
Kaelthas
Archimonde
Teron gorefiend
Reliquary of souls

[Narwhalosh Whalescream]

What were some hard bosses in TBC?

[babyback]

What were some hard bosses in TBC?

Muru pre pre nerf. Only like 5 guilds killed him before the first nerf. Even after the first nerd it was a cluster fuck.

[Bigbazz]

What were some hard bosses in TBC?

Magtheridon Pre-nerf, Nightbane, Netherspite, Prince, Hydross, Vashj, Kael'thas, ROS, Illidari Council, Illidan, Twin Eredar, Muru, KJ.... But I mean difficult is relative, none of these will cause issues for an experienced and prepared raiding guild... It's more like which ones will pugs have issues with, lots of pugs on private servers had trouble with nightbane and would routinely skip Netherspite for example, a decent guild would just kill them and probably on the first try if their gear is somewhat decent.

Muru pre pre nerf. Only like 5 guilds killed him before the first nerf. Even after the first nerd it was a cluster fuck.

That doesn't really count since Muru wasn't nerfed until WOTLK pre-patch, at which point all TBC content was nerfed anyway.

[Doffen]

TBC raiding was challenging. I mean, 6 people to click an object at the same time. What did they expect of humanity! Its not rocket science, its only a game!!






Pink glasses off: Back then.

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Magtheridon Pre-nerf, Nightbane, Netherspite, Prince, Hydross, Vashj, Kael'thas, ROS, Illidari Council, Illidan, Twin Eredar, Muru, KJ.... But I mean difficult is relative, none of these will cause issues for an experienced and prepared raiding guild... It's more like which ones will pugs have issues with, lots of pugs on private servers had trouble with nightbane and would routinely skip Netherspite for example, a decent guild would just kill them and probably on the first try if their gear is somewhat decent.



That doesn't really count since Muru wasn't nerfed until WOTLK pre-patch, at which point all TBC content was nerfed anyway.

Players got buffed immensly was the great Mu'ru nerf for sure. With the rest. I remember I tried boomkin before nerf, did around 1.5 dps on brutallus I remember(as only boss on that char). Did Mu'ru on it the pre patch week, 4.5k dps.

Hey thats the number we do on ptr right now. Funny.

[callipygoustp]

This time, I say again, THIS TIME, its going to take weeks!

[Zero Wing]

I was in Staysafe's stream earlier and he seems to think that guilds will not be able to steamroll BC the way Classic was steamrolled. It made me remember that a high end guild back in TBC (I think NIhilum??) rerolled factions and cleared all top end content IN ONE WEEK near the end of the expansion in TBC. I feel that if the talents are how they were in the last few patches of Black Temple or Sunwell that the content will get easily cleared immediately.

Which guild was it? I tried to look it up but cannot find any details about it but definitely remember reading here on MMO Champ that a top end guild did the above feat.

You're thinking of Juggernaut II on Mal'Ganis (US).

[Woobels]

TBC is obviously harder than Classic but it's not hard enough to make a difference and stop it from getting steamrolled, people have actually gained a lot of knowledge and improved TBC's "meta" pretty dramatically, guilds that apply this knowledge and min-max accordingly are really powerful (and get powerful really early on because of crafting) and will blow through all content just like Classic.

Much harder for pugs though, no doubt.