Kael'thas Sunstrider New Voice Actor, Patch 9.1 Mythic+ Scoring System, DLC #768

[Trumpcat]

"Allegations" and "Twitter" remind me of those times someone screamed a person is a witch because of a solid reason, then others who heard it screamed the same thing, then the witch would be burned on the town square to the cheering of the mob.

[Arganis]

He was one of my favorite voice actors in WoW along with Illidan.

I don’t see how removing decade old audio recordings in favor of sub-par replacements does anything to better society.

A vast majority of the people who compose our societies are evil shitbags and we don’t cancel them, instead we glorify them. But then sex comes along and everybody loses their marbles. As if we weren’t the pornhub generation where complete depravity is now a virtue.

It’s just hypocrisy at its finest and a breeding ground for mental illness. Schizophrenic soceity of monsters trying to play saints. Hard to believe so few people realize this is actually Hell. Yes, you read that correctly. You’re (spiritually) dead and this is Hell.

[Mojo03]

From what I’ve read:

Dude flirts with women who seem to like him.

Women get offended, because he’s old and unattractive, so therefore it’s “creepy”

Women make sexual harassment claims.

None hold up on court.

Dude gets his reputation and career ruined and now Blizzard goes through all the effort to re-record his voice over from old recordings?

Crazy town.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

you mean like you just made a total fool out of yourself with this post, last time i checked the 'court of public opinion' had no legal power whatsoever, meaning that even if it was the scummiest thing you could say possible on that recording, it means absolutely fuck all from a legal standpoint and should be considered 'innocent until proven guilty' as stated by the person you quoted, but hey, i guess you ppl of the twatter generation who just destroy the lives of potentially innocent people because 'mom my feelings got hurt wah wah wah!' etc, it's disgusting and you should be ashamed to be associated with such practices.

I mean blizzard didn’t take any legal action legal power is irrelevant to rather they want to stop working with/show casing some one they find distasteful.

[SinR]

I do remember the previous thread that talked about this got closed.

can we go 2 for 2?

[Relapses]

I do remember the previous thread that talked about this got closed.

can we go 2 for 2?

I love the thread getting shut down by a Mod then a fucking news post about the same subject, almost verbatim word-for-word is posted less than 24 hours later.

[Arganis]

I mean blizzard didn’t take any legal action legal power is irrelevant to rather they want to stop working with/show casing some one they find distasteful.

It’s a not a legal problem, it’s a cultural problem.

We now live in a society where virtue is derived just from virtue-signaling and pandering to the ignorant masses in whatever way is currently politically popular.

Too bad drastic actions can’t be taken against people who show themselves to be slime balls ethically or financially. Nope. Only sex matters. Cause sex is apparently the only thing everybody agrees is evil while they watch their “white babe gets wrecked by six black bulls” on PH, aka the only cool place to be a perv.

It’s all just a total fucking joke and shows how easily the drooling unthinking masses are manipulated all day long.

[RareBeast]

/sigh

I only came here to see what people thought about the mythic+ score stuff.........

[xuros]

Old voice actor > new voice actor. replaced over allegations ...

[Adamas102]

From what I’ve read:

Dude flirts with women who seem to like him.

Women get offended, because he’s old and unattractive, so therefore it’s “creepy”

Women make sexual harassment claims.

None hold up on court.

Dude gets his reputation and career ruined and now Blizzard goes through all the effort to re-record his voice over from old recordings?

Crazy town.

The way it read to me was just that he used his fame (meager though it is) to be a sleazy womanizer. Is it a crime? No. But it's pretty gross to use a position of power and/or influence to indulge in that type of behavior. Blizzard is well within their right to not want to support a person like that. One might say "well, that's his private life", but at the same time its his work with companies like Blizzard that put him in a position to be a creep and target more women.

That's my take on this particular person/case. I know there were also allegations of illegal behavior, and while those allegations may also have influenced Blizzard's decision I think their actions are well within reason based solely on the stories that seem to ring true. If a guy wants to have sex with a bunch of women, that's fine by me. If he's using a position that I put him in to do that, then I'd probably fire him as well.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

It’s a not a legal problem, it’s a cultural problem.

We now live in a society where virtue is derived just from virtue-signaling and pandering to the ignorant masses in whatever way is currently politically popular.

Too bad drastic actions can’t be taken against people who show themselves to be slime balls ethically or financially. Nope. Only sex matters. Cause sex is apparently the only thing everybody agrees is evil while they watch their “white babe gets wrecked by six black bulls” on PH, aka the only cool place to be a perv.

It’s all just a total fucking joke and shows how easily the drooling unthinking masses are manipulated all day long.

We have always lived in such a society it’s just that the hot button issue changes with time.

Jump some years back and you have vets being “canceled” for fighting in nam and being unable to find work.

Jump further back and you have people being “canceled” for dating the wrong person.

Go even further back and, well the “canceling” gets a lot bloodier.

The hot topic issue might change but it’s the same for for all of human history.

[BetrayedOf52]

I see Blizzard is making their own Patch 9.1 Mythic+ Scoring System, check the comments, no one cares b.c KT has a voice change.

[Lord Pebbleton]

Tell me you're from the US without telling me you're from the US:

"Quinton Flynn's work from more than a decade ago is getting canceled and replaced because of allegations"

[fwc577]

/sigh

I only came here to see what people thought about the mythic+ score stuff.........

We also live in a society where the laws cannot keep up with the changing times and law enforcement is pretty much helpless in many situations.

It's amazing to me how so many actors and celebrities have no problems avoiding controversy like this but people want to whine about cancel culture on some poor bastard who has shown bad behavior.

We live in a society that is in the year 2021 and this social media shit has been going on for over a decade. Time for a very small minority of actors / actresses to learn to act respectful when they're public figures.

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this isnt about the LAW,its about the bad optics that these companies want to avoid by not being associated with potentialy problematic individuals,they have the numbers on this,they know their bottom line suffers if they dont do this,this is pure capitalism baby,stop with the dog whistles

Yeah, not sure why these people hate capitalism so much.

[RoKPaNda]

I'm amazed at how many people are going to bat for a guy that's potentially a sleazeball just because they like the way his voice sounds. If Blizzard or any other company that has hired him to do voice work decides they don't want their product associated with him anymore in case he actually is a sleazeball why is that a problem? It's not like they're un-paying him for work he did all those years ago. He's not losing anything by having his old voice lines that he's already been paid for removed from a video game.

Anyway I'll be interested in seeing if this new M+ scoring system takes off or if people use a third party option.

[Kel_Sceptic]

This is why PC culture needs to chill tf down.

I never get it how can people try to thing that deleting all of any good a human has done, because of a wrong he has done it is a smart thing.
The fking smart thing is to take everything good in life and try to dodge everything wrong.

I am always trying to think what will it happen if Thomas Edison was found of doing some weird PC cultura wrong sht, what will we do, use candles for the rest of our lifes ?

Human nature in its core has some rotten seeds, and if we don't know the weird things/stuff a human is thinking or doing, doesn't mean that human is perfect.

#PCCULTUREWILLDESTROYUS

[deenman]

From what I’ve read:

Dude flirts with women who seem to like him.

Women get offended, because he’s old and unattractive, so therefore it’s “creepy”

Women make sexual harassment claims.

None hold up on court.

Dude gets his reputation and career ruined and now Blizzard goes through all the effort to re-record his voice over from old recordings?

Crazy town.

sexual harassment doesnt always imply legal consequences,this is more about optics,blizzard just doesnt want to be seen to be associated with a slimebag

[LemonDemonGirl]

Could they just like, Ray Chase to voice him? He would Denathrius and did a great job

[shise]

This is just absurd.

Changing the voice of such an important Warcraft figure for no reason.

[noremorze]

Oh look, the deplorables crying about cancel culture again. People like you is why people don't come forward.