Israel and Palestine Conflict Heats Up

[Cringefest]

You think that firing random rockets at Jerusalem as response to a legal battle of 30 years that did not go your way is something that can be justified? And then you really think there should not be any response?

Yes, that's a HELL lot bigger escalation than potential eviction of 8 squatter families that did not pay rent for 30 years.

Good thing you're a minority. habibi.

We will finish this in 2 days, then you can go ahead and cry your crocodile tears over Hamas' self inflicted rubble.

I don't mind. I don't live there, unlike you. Good luck for the future.

[Gaidax]

I don't mind. I don't live there, unlike you. Good luck for the future.

I'm cool with that.

It's part of life here, sometimes there's rain and sometimes there are rockets. I don't expect this to change 100 years forward. All it even takes is a single minor spark every time and there is enough tinder 500 years forward.

So given that reality, I don't mind either. I have more important things to care about like mortgage and spouse.

[ati87]

You think that firing random rockets at Jerusalem as response to a legal battle of 30 years that did not go your way is something that can be justified? And then you really think there should not be any response?

Yes, that's a HELL lot bigger escalation than potential eviction of 8 squatter families that did not pay rent for 30 years.

Good thing you're a minority. habibi.

We will finish this in 2 days, then you can go ahead and cry your crocodile tears over Hamas' self inflicted rubble.

No, this will not be finished in 2 days.
What do you think will happen if the Israeli supreme court tells those people to get the F out?

[JohnBrown1917]

I think you don't quite have the grasp of the situation. It has nothing to do with orthodox or extreme right wingers. If country gets attacked by barrage of rockets, that's the end of politics.

It's like the 2008 war, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_W...%E2%80%932009)

Was led by left-wing government, with left-wing PM and left-wing Defense Minister with left-wing Labour party being head of coalition.

BTW, compared to that operation, what's happening now is peanuts.

I mean, that even your labour is fascist does not really change they all love a good ethnic cleansing, but hey, if thats what floats your boat.

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I'm against ethnic cleansing. I want the Arab Muslim population to go up both in Israel and Palestine, which the number is going up in both cases. This is the opposite of ethnic cleansing.

Also like I said earlier I'm against the extremists who build new settlements in the West Bank.

Yet you keep defending Israel for doing exactly that.

[Draco-Onis]

No, this will not be finished in 2 days.
What do you think will happen if the Israeli supreme court tells those people to get the F out?

I wouldn't bother he enjoys the slaughter of what he calls "savages".

[Gaidax]

No, this will not be finished in 2 days.
What do you think will happen if the Israeli supreme court tells those people to get the F out?

That shit will drag on another 30 years, I'm not seeing that decision actually enforced. It won't be a first.

[JohnBrown1917]

It's hyperbole. If Israel was literally engaged in ethnic cleansing then our leaders like Joe Biden would cancel our alliance with them and stop sending them support. Our leaders know these claims of them being Nazis, ethnic cleansing, and genocide is just hyperbole so it's not a big deal.

You mean like the US did after it became obvious What SA was doing to Yemen? Or its own campaigns in Korea and Vietnam in the past? Or all the fascist coups it supported as recently as in Bolivia?

[Draco-Onis]

It's hyperbole. If Israel was literally engaged in ethnic cleansing then our leaders like Joe Biden would cancel our alliance with them and stop sending them support. Our leaders know these claims of them being Nazis, ethnic cleansing, and genocide is just hyperbole so it's not a big deal.

The US has a very long history of supporting genocidal monsters including today, we aren't the good guys we do what our leaders think is best for the national interest or themselves. The human rights and moral grandstanding is just for the optics we have no issue looking the other way when it benefits us.

[Gaidax]

I wouldn't bother he enjoys the slaughter of what he calls "savages".

More like I don't give a fuck what they do to even distill any kind of emotion from that. It's more like "whatever" at this point.

I just drink my morning coffee, work from home and tend to my family. If I want some entertainment I fire up WoW, Netflix, do/go to a house party or go to vacation in the North/abroad.

[downnola]

More like I don't give a fuck what they do to even distill any kind of emotion from that. It's more like "whatever" at this point.

I just drink my morning coffee, work from home and tend to my family. If I want some entertainment I fire up WoW, Netflix, do/go to a house party or go to vacation in the North/abroad.

Yes, it's painfully obvious that you're conditioned to accept the mass murder of civilians and apartheid. Your routine of flexing your American-provided might on impoverished Palestinians isn't all that impressive. You come off more like a sociopath than a tough guy.

[Gaidax]

Yes, it's painfully obvious that you're conditioned to accept the mass murder of civilians and apartheid. Your routine of flexing your American-provided might on impoverished Palestinians isn't all that impressive. You come off more like a sociopath than a tough guy.

Yes it's painfully obvious that I'm one of 9 million people in a country that have life with my own thing to deal with. If I'd live in Sweden I'd go full SJW all you like, but I don't live in Sweden and reality here is different.


As for impoverished palestinians - your precious Hamas spent ungodly amount of aid $$ to build a whole network of underground tunnels with munitions delivery systems inside right under their city and towns. Maybe Palestinians in Gaza would not be so impoverished if their internationally recognized terrorist leadership in Gaza would spend that money to actually improve lives of their own citizens, instead of their heroic efforts to smuggle arms and explosives and build city under city full of bunkers and arms.

/shrug

[Draco-Onis]

Yes, it's painfully obvious that you're conditioned to accept the mass murder of civilians and apartheid. Your routine of flexing your American-provided might on impoverished Palestinians isn't all that impressive. You come off more like a sociopath than a tough guy.

You have to give him credit for being honest about it. At least he isn't trying to justify it he is fine with killing them all. History turns out is not without a sense of irony.

[Collegeguy]

You could also try and prevent ultra orthodox and extreme right wingers to be part of the policy making process at government level. I bet that's going to do loads in terms of stopping rockets.

You mean Hamas right?

[Felya]

I'm cool with that.

I’m sorry, that was a fucked up thing to be told. I hope you and your family is alright... most of my family in Israel is in Haifa...

[Gaidax]

I’m sorry, that was a fucked up thing to be told. I hope you and your family is alright... most of my family in Israel is in Haifa...

Yeah, we're fine.

30km to the south would be shit, the guys there are basically spending half their day in shelters - I can hear faint interceptor booms in the evening. We had a few evenings with sirens too and there was a direct hit in my city too, but luckily rocket smashed into empty apartment.

Haifa is clear now, it's too far from Gaza, but they have their own troubles with Hezbollah to the North gearing up to inevitably do the same.

[Felya]

Yes, it's painfully obvious that you're conditioned to accept the mass murder of civilians and apartheid. Your routine of flexing your American-provided might on impoverished Palestinians isn't all that impressive. You come off more like a sociopath than a tough guy.

I think it might be that he lives in a country actively being bombed. You just called him a sociopath, for caring more about his family being bombed, than the people doing it. The fact that he doesn’t take into account the apartheid, to temper the fact that he and his family is being bombed, isn’t an expression of his privilege.

I don’t know... I think the guy telling him ‘I don’t live there’, so he ‘doesn’t mind’ the bombing that the guy’s family has to deal with... is literally accepting the possible murder of his family. He is a civilian... so is his family... How the fuck are comments like that supposed to mean that this is about saving civilians or giving a shit about the conflict?

Yeah, real privileged to have to actually live the conflict, then be told by someone who spent pages talking about civilian casualties, pretty much tell him he doesn’t care, because he doesn’t live there? How the fuck is he the one being attacked for privilege.

I don't mind. I don't live there, unlike you. Good luck for the future.

See the bold part of what he was responding to? That’s privilege... that’s taking privilege and robbing it in the face of someone, claiming they care about their family being bombed.

[JohnBrown1917]

You have to give him credit for being honest about it. At least he isn't trying to justify it he is fine with killing them all. History turns out is not without a sense of irony.

Germany and south-Africa where also filled with people like that, one of the big reasons its hard to stop fascism is due to how many people just don't care if the country they live in commits ethnic cleansing on the natives of the land.

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You mean Hamas right?

The death count by Israel is far, far higher.

[Felya]

Haifa is clear now, it's too far from Gaza, but they have their own troubles with Hezbollah to the North gearing up to inevitably do the same.

Yeah, I posted earlier. One of the few things that Palestinians and Israeli agree on, at 62% and 60%, is that the 3rd intifada is coming.

[JohnBrown1917]

See the bold part of what he was responding to? That’s privilege... that’s taking privilege and robbing it in the face of someone, claiming they care about their family being bombed.

If anything, he is the privileged one for not having to live under a fascist government's bad side like the Palestinians do.

[Draco-Onis]

I think it might be that he lives in a country actively being bombed. You just called him a sociopath, for caring more about his family being bombed, than the people doing it. The fact that he doesn’t take into account the apartheid, to temper the fact that he and his family is being bombed, isn’t an expression of his privilege.

I don’t know... I think the guy telling him ‘I don’t live there’, so he ‘doesn’t mind’ the bombing that the guy’s family has to deal with... is literally accepting the possible murder of his family. He is a civilian... so is his family... How the fuck are comments like that supposed to mean that this is about saving civilians or giving a shit about the conflict?

Yeah, real privileged to have to actually live the conflict, then be told by someone who spent pages talking about civilian casualties, pretty much tell him he doesn’t care, because he doesn’t live there? How the fuck is he the one being attacked for privilege.



See the bold part of what he was responding to? That’s privilege... that’s taking privilege and robbing it in the face of someone, claiming they care about their family being bombed.

I don't think you know who you are defending or maybe you do. His disdain for non Israelis or savages as he calls them is well documented.