Looks like some airlines are now avoiding Belarus air space.
Be responsible, avoid the airspace of tin pot dictators.
Be responsible, avoid the bait of pro dictator forum trolls. When the mods or Ryanair wont protect you, protect yourself.
Looks like some airlines are now avoiding Belarus air space.
Be responsible, avoid the airspace of tin pot dictators.
Be responsible, avoid the bait of pro dictator forum trolls. When the mods or Ryanair wont protect you, protect yourself.
I see the same accounts are once again defending fascism in all its glory.
At least they didn't try to say it was food poisoning.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...it-2021-05-24/
"Together with international partners, we will work to close the airspace of Belarus to international flights," Lithuanian Prime Minister Ingrida Simonyte said on Monday.
France's Europe Minister, Clement Beaune, called the plane's forced diversion "an act of state piracy that cannot be left unpunished", and proposed tougher sanctions against Belarus.
Wonder how far they will go seems they sanctions are being also tailored less against Belarus in general and more against the dictator and his ilk directly.
“My philosophy is: It’s none of my business what people say of me and think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier.”
― Anthony Hopkins
Because if pilot have chosen to land in Minsk on their own they don't have to? And that's what they claim happened.
"Willing to take over", "ready to shoot" and so on are just fearmongering conjectures, dehumanizing images of insane monster on other side.
As you see by @jonnysensible 's outburst some people take such images overly seriously.
You can consider them bad without going down to such caricatures.
Last edited by Shalcker; 2021-05-24 at 02:14 PM.
To confirm, we have people defending terrorism, and threatening the lives of innocent people.
They posted clear and unambiguous statements https://twitter.com/RyanairPress condemning this act of aviation piracy, and gave every indication that the pilot followed instructions from the air-traffic-controller as is usual.
And your what-about-ism is false and misleading, the major difference is that the RyanAir flight was between two EU countries, and was hijacked by a terrorist state, whereas what-about-Ukrainan one was starting from Ukraine and stopped from leaving Ukraine.
If hijackers have access to armed vehicles they use them; that's what Somali pirates use their gun-boats for and that's what Belarus used their fighter jets for.
But I agree with you: Belarus' behaviour isn't outside the norm for terrorists.
You are still missing the important fact that the terrorist regime in Belarus forced an airplane to land, whereas Ukraine did nothing similar in that alleged incident.
Pilots don't fly around like that.
The pilot was ordered to land in Minsk by the air-traffic-controller in Belarus, and followed those instructions.
Yes, the pilot was ordered to land by ATC and followed those instructions as pilots are told to - even though the statements by the ATC were clearly false.
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This was a hijacking of a flight between two EU-countries, and sort of automatically puts the actor in the "EU enemy" category.
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Words to live by.
So, no threats? Thanks for vindicating my position.
Yes, the difference is when it happens to EU it's worst thing ever, and when it happens to anyone else it's whatever (and maybe they even deserved it).And your what-about-ism is false and misleading, the major difference is that the RyanAir flight was between two EU countries, and was hijacked by a terrorist state, whereas what-about-Ukrainan one was starting from Ukraine and stopped from leaving Ukraine.
And hey, people already post "OMG, regime is insane for stopping plane takeoff for security check because of bomb call!" here too.
When was anything hijacked? As RyanAir says "Our FR4978 flight has landed safely in Vilnius at 19:25hrs UK time (21:25hrs local time)."If hijackers have access to armed vehicles they use them; that's what Somali pirates use their gun-boats for and that's what Belarus used their fighter jets for.
They forced an airplane belonging to other country to land after takeoff to get one alleged spy - that is literally what happened.You are still missing the important fact that the terrorist regime in Belarus forced an airplane to land, whereas Ukraine did nothing similar in that alleged incident.
You're not showing where the difference lies.
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Feels like a act of war. Sanctions will not be enough.
So far this claim is unfounded conjecture.
Highly likely, but so far unproven.The pilot was ordered to land in Minsk by the air-traffic-controller in Belarus, and followed those instructions.
Pilots are not supposed to make judgements to that end, and for good reasons.Yes, the pilot was ordered to land by ATC and followed those instructions as pilots are told to - even though the statements by the ATC were clearly false.
But Lukashenko is already in that category.This was a hijacking of a flight between two EU-countries, and sort of automatically puts the actor in the "EU enemy" category.
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Journalists get arrested all the time. Free Assange! Pardon Snowden!
And hey, free arrested guy too while we are at it; even if i understand Lukashenko i don't hold it against "free press". Git gud, Luka! Media is not supposed to be threatening your existence no matter how well-connected or well-funded.
But EU meddling can only make it worse as there is literally no way to hurt Lukashenko personally badly enough for him to repent without hurting every Belorussian... and even that probably will not do that either.
It'll just support his paranoia that EU is out to get him and crack down even harder. "Government-in-exile" isn't going to work.
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Do you want to bomb Minsk for that?
What exactly do you think will be "enough" outside of sanctions?
Last edited by Shalcker; 2021-05-24 at 04:08 PM.