That would be even worse than the whole Twilight saga.
"El Psy Kongroo!" Hearthstone Moderator
perfectly stupid Danuser material.
+10 for that.
but: its not „simple“ enough for current writing. its a somewhat „genius“ form of being stupid. blizzards writers are more of the „stupid“ form of being stupid. if you know what i mean.
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sarcasm and cynism are not one of your top skills, am i right?
The writers loving Sylvanas more than Tyrande
Thus the obvious plot armor in the face a moment where Tyrande can absolutely kill Sylvanas, even without having to sacrifice herself to do so. Cuz literally the writers can just write it that way if they wanted, right? Does Tyrande have to die in order for her to kill Sylvanas? No. But the writers are telling you that Elune is 'sparing Tyrande's life' even though it was Elune that granted her the power to *sacrifice her life for the sake of embodying the Night Warrior* in the first place.
The way the writers have written the events so far, it's basically Elune saying 'Oh I'll let you use Night Warrior powers. And you can go ahead and kill Nathanos the mook. Oh but Sylvanas? No, leave her. I have further plans for her. Your job is done here'.
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know whats the real tragedy here? Blizz and Danuser WILL come up with something even MORE awful. nobody knows how this is possible, but it will happen.
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you forgot to mention:
- red eyes
- blue eyes
- big boobs
and maybe
- hot
- badass
Fine with me. Still the only really cool character in wow so im game with here staying relevant
They are saving her for later. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to fight her in the Sanctum of Domination and she wouldn't be able to receive her soul back.
This is you just purposefully ignoring text for the sake of your own vision.That Sylvanas refers to any dying bargain does not mean the writers wouldn't intend Elune to spare Sylvanas for the sake of becoming her redeemed champion, willing to sacrifice to fight and defeat Zovaal.
Yes, of course i am. They didn't make this whole Tyrande Night Warrior thing just to drop it an expansion later. Besides, i don't think she even changes models.You really think the writers are going to have her go back into Night Warrior mode? After we know Sylvanas is heading towards a redemption arc? Who are you kidding here?
That intervention was for anger management, not suicidal tendencies.Correction. Embodied.
Tyrande is not a Night Warrior after 9.1. They literally gave her an intervention. You really expect her to relapse into such a dangerous position after Elune already *doesn't* want Tyrande going full sacrifice mode? That was the whole point of having Tyrande *not* embody the Night Warrior to the point of self-sacrificing.
Why does someone have to sacrifice himself? it's not a suicide bomber class.Which means the story could be indicating *someone else who is in a position to sacrifice themselves* taking up that mantle.
This is part of Blizzard's current writing about forsaking anger and animosity for the sake of global friendship.I'm not even making a point that I want this stupid shit to happen. I'm literally pointing out how much sense it actually makes once you really think about where the story is heading. Cuz if Elune really wants Tyrande to be Night Warrior, then there's no reason she would *INTERVENE* to bring her back to normal. The story could have just kept Tyrande in Night Warrior mode through the entirity of Shadowlands.
The only reason i can see Sylvanas becoming the Night Warrior is to introduce a PotM/Dark Ranger class.I see no other purpose the writers would have put this here if not to intentionally leave the Night Warrior mantle open for someone else to take up. And the Night Warrior story arc certainly isn't going to continue centering on some rando unimportant character like the Stonewright or Khaliiq. And if the writers wanted that position continue to be represented by Tyrande, then what is the purpose of *redeeming* her to normal? Your explanation actually doesn't make sense from a writers point of view, because they could have just as easily have Tyrande continue to be a Night Warrior in 9.1 and no one would assume that 'she used up so much power that she totally needed an intervention!'.
Who said her job is done?
Maybe she will go through a training with the other Night Warriors to better control her powers?
The writers are.
Pay attention!
Sure, and the writers wouldn't have to make an intervention scene and revert her powers to show Tyrande training with other Night Warriors.Maybe she will go through a training with the other Night Warriors to better control her powers?
That's not what happened in 9.1.
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You forgot the most important part of the story!
Using the newfound powers of the Night Warrior/Elune bestowed upon her combined with the powers she had been using from the Jailer, she's able to bring everybody back to life from the burning of Teldressil and ALSO recreate the tree with a cooler, updated model. Then she flies into space to fight against the Void since they're the true enemies of Elune. Remember, she killed those people because she needed their souls to go into the Maw, so she can just pluck their souls outta there.
Man, this writing thing is so fucking easy. All you gotta do is think "What would piss people off the most?"
Also, she's literally the perfect candidate to be the first Azerothian to fly through space unaided by outside spacefaring ships. She has the undead racial she literally can't run out of air cuz she doesn't breathe
Can't wait to fight alongside Mommy Sylvanas against the Old God homeworld of "Pimplus Giganticus" where it's just a writhing mass of Old God flesh everywhere.
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If they loved Sylvanas, they wouldn't have written her to be such a hated character over time. It's as simple as that.
It was abundantly clear the reason Tyrande didn't kill Sylvanas was because it was, as she said, "My life for hers" and Elune denied that. The entire story of Tyrande in 9.1 last I checked was saving her from death from being the Night Warrior. Something that Elune didn't care about when it came to the previous Night Warriors. I get people love to hate on the story, but literally twisting it to try to fit an idea of "Well it was really for Sylvanas..." is silly. If it was for Sylvanas, they could have literally just had Tyrande die before she finished.
On top of that, what kinda take is that even? "They could just write it that way...". You know, the thing people already try to crucify them for?
"El Psy Kongroo!" Hearthstone Moderator
You really believe she won't be used in this expansion anymore?
It's just an intervention. You know, like when people spiral out of control in real life. She didn't revert to her old model or anything as far as i know.Sure, and the writers wouldn't have to make an intervention scene and revert her powers to show Tyrande training with other Night Warriors.
That's not what happened in 9.1.
And, since several characters can be Night Warriors, i don't see why Tyrande has to give up her powers in order for Sylvanas to be one. If Elune wanted, she would just made her into one, regardless.
She isn't a hated character though.
Despite all that they've done to her character, there's a clear and vocal *fanbase* behind her character, so strong that the writers themselves are in love with her character despite all they've done to *villainize* her.
It's all aimed to one point in the story - a massive redemption arc.
So regardless of this theory, we're going to see the writers putting forth some form of character redemption that will be *their attempt* and having people hate her less, and have a fitting conclusion to her character.
I mean, she's even getting a novel released sometime later this year. It's obvious that the writers *don't hate* her character.
Remember when the Aspects and the Dragons lost their powers and became normal dragons except an expansion later they didn't?
Remember when they said Grommash was the final raid boss of WoD but then he wasn't?
Remember when they wrote a book where Syvlanas cursed Voljin for making her warchief inside of her own mind when it was all a part of the Jailer's plans?
Sometimes they just do things and then decide it doesn't work out. Who knows?
Tyrande will be used, but not as Night Warrior. That's over. What we see next is how Tyrande deals with life after having been a Night Warrior. That's what the writers consider 'character growth', and we see this shit all the time. *COUGH* Thrall dealing with life after losing Shaman powers *COUGH* Bolvar dealing with life after losing Helm of Domination *COUGH*
Is she still a Night Warrior after the intervention?It's just an intervention. You know, like when people spiral out of control in real life. She didn't revert to her old model or anything as far as i know.
Again, it's not *Elune* wanting it.And, since several characters can be Night Warriors, i don't see why Tyrande has to give up her powers in order for Sylvanas to be one. If Elune wanted, she would just made her into one, regardless.
It's the *Writers* wanting it. That's the whole point of hyping up the Night Warrior role. My theory implies that the writers purpose of creating this Night Warrior aspect is all a build up towards Sylvanas causing a bunch of shit, gaining evil powers, redeeming her soul, gaining GOOD powers on top of her evil ones to become KERRIGAN powerful enough to rival AMON ZOVAAL!
And all this would circle around as being *ELUNE'S WILL* because that's how they've framed that one moment in the story where Sylvanas gets her life spared. Sparing Tyrande is the misdirection, and the writers true purpose is to empower Sylvanas for the final conflict moving forward. And it doesn't need to make sense in the plot, since the whole point of Sylvanas coming to terms with her actions are all going to be implied, and also be considered *part of Elune's plan* to creating the ultimate Night Warrior that is able to *get close to* Zovaal. Thus Elune also allowed Sylvanas to burn Teldrassil without intervention.
Fucked up, right?
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The only thing it's missing is if Sylvanas takes the Night Warrior from Tyrande in order to save her from it consuming her, and then have Tyrande (and perhaps other night elves) THANK Sylvanas.
We need some real "DRAENOR IS FREE" energy up in this bitch.