Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Gorsameth]

So, yeah, that's a couple of apparenlty top-tier "Christians" saying Trump wasn't worth the benefits they got. Newsweek found a third who is, at the most charitable, hesitant.

No, he clearly says Trump exceeded his expectations. They got Roe vs Wade, they got the embassy moved. Trump did everything they wanted and more and they were happy to close their ears when he said horrible shit because it was worth it.

Now that Trump has done those things he can't do enough for them to convince them to vote for him again.

I'd love to ask him how forgiving he thinks God is about those who knowingly work with evil men and help evil men do evil things to accomplish some other objective, that they could have done without helping the evil man, in the name of God.

[Rasulis]

Not worth its own thread. So here it goes.

Anti-Woke Banking Startup Cancels Itself

Less than three months after its public debut, the “anti-woke” banking startup GloriFi is canceling itself.

The company has laid off employees and informed them the end is nigh, via an email from Chief Marketing Officer Cathy Landtrop obtained by the Wall Street Journal. Landroop cited “financial challenges related to startup mistakes, the failing economy, reputational attacks, and multiple negative stories,” as reasons for the downfall.

The Journal reports the company’s fate was sealed Friday when a funding arrangement fell through.

Pitching itself as a financial institution that allowed one to be “free to celebrate your love of God and country without fear of cancellation,” GloriFi’s marketing read more like a campaign ad than an enticing APR offer on a new credit card. Highlights from the “about us” page include: “OUR BILL OF RIGHTS IS NON-NEGOTIABLE” and “WE ARE ONE NATION UNDER GOD.”

In its short tenure GloriFi, managed to launch checking and savings accounts as well as credit cards, with plans to offer mortgages and insurance in a future that will no longer take place. Founder and CEO Toby Neugebauer pitched plans to offer gun owners discounts on home insurance, credit cards made of shell casing material, and assistance paying legal bills if customers shot someone in self-defense. Over the summer, GloriFi secured conservative commentator Candace Owens as a co-founder and spokesperson for the brand.

In October, the Wall Street Journal detailed the tumultuous beginning of the startup that led to its swift collapse. Neugebauer and business partner Nick Ayers, former chief of staff to Vice President Mike Pence, managed to secure an imposing roster of financial backers for their Texas-Based company. Enticing investors like conservative billionaire Peter Thiel, former Georgia Republican Sen. Kelly Loeffler, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Citadel founder Ken Griffin with promises of a market chalk full of “plumbers, electricians and police officers,” who “are fed up with big banks that don’t share their values.”

But GloriFi was unable to translate ideological grandstanding into functional corporate management. Even before its public launch, the startup was plagued by reports of chaos amongst staff and financiers. GloriFi missed its planned launch date several times, at one point due to clashes with Texas financial regulators. Reports emerged of unpaid invoices and erratic behavior from Neugebauer, who had converted his home Dallas mansion into the company’s main office.

According to the Journal, the company was eventually forced to hire a law firm to investigate workplace issues, particularly around Neugebauer. In one memo reviewed by the Journal, GloriFi’s former Head of Human Resources Britt Amos described several employees at Neugebaur’s mansion telling him to “make sure I leave around six,” and explaining that “after 5 p.m. Toby starts drinking and things at the house deteriorate quickly.” Amos also described a meeting where a visibly drunk Neugebauer was “drinking Red Bull and putting alcohol in it.”

[Zan15]

Not worth its own thread. So here it goes.

Anti-Woke Banking Startup Cancels Itself

Don't you know god and jesus love their red bull !!!
Also according to the bible they hate rich people, so yah no wonder this happened. :P

[callipygoustp]

Not worth its own thread. So here it goes.

Anti-Woke Banking Startup Cancels Itself

Am I missing something? What does this have to do with Trump?

[Kaleredar]

Am I missing something? What does this have to do with Trump?

Well Mike Pence's former chief of staff was involved with it, as per the article.

But moreover, it's another demonstration that the "anti-woke" movement, of which Trump is a major poster boy, is run by a bunch incompetent charlatans.

[Breccia]

Am I missing something? What does this have to do with Trump?

The Trump Shitshow thread is the default place for people who espouse Trump's views as well as Trump personally. People who are willing to burn piles of their own money just to own the libs, for example.

But back on the primary target, just not the sole one, Steve Bannon is added to the list of abandoned Trump allies backing slowly away from the mistake they'll spend their lives refusing to admit they made.

In a post on the right-wing social media platform Gettr on Monday, Bannon, whose--

"Doesn't Bannon have a media company?"

Yes, it's called Brietbart. He posts a lot of opinion articles there.

"Why didn't he say this on Brietbart?"

...good question.

whose "War Room" podcast is essential listening in populist conservative circles, appeared to suggest that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was poised to assume the mantle of today's Republican Party, praising a strategy to win, when others, namely the former president, had failed.

In a speech at the Republican Jewish Coalition's annual conference over the weekend, DeSantis spoke of the virtue of never backing down one's principles, evoking General Douglas MacArthur's famed quote, "there is no substitute for victory," after consecutive elections in which Trump's influence appeared to hold the party back.

"Governor DeSantis Watching WarRoom and doing a straight lift," Bannon wrote.

"Isn't Steve Bannon on Truth Social?"

Uh..(checks notes)...no. Turns out that wasn't Bannon but the Anonymous hacking group. It took Trump's fans weeks to realize that wasn't a photo of Steve Bannon but a defecating pig.

While Bannon has remained a cheerleader for the Make America Great Again movement Trump inspired, Bannon reposted an article in The Hill late Monday morning authored by Republican consultant Keith Naughton questioning whether Trump would "flame out" before the crucial Iowa caucuses, noting his poor performance in recent polling and his apparent inability to discuss anything new on the campaign trail.

And over the weekend, he reposted a CNN poll showing that Trump was in his weakest position in "years," while positive DeSantis-related content has been increasingly present on Bannon's Gettr feed.

While Bannon has not outright endorsed DeSantis, well, neither has anyone else. He did cheer DeSantis on for committing fraud in putting immigrants on a plane, which to be fair, is not the only crime Bannon encouraged.

"Surely Trump can handle losing one media outlet turning its back on him."

Yes...but we're well beyond one, at this point. The National Review also took a swing, but it appears to be in self-defense. And of course there's all the Murdoch stuff we've seen.

It seems Trump just can't buy good press.

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WaPo goes year-by-year over Trump's win/loss record. Spoiler alert: the headline of the article is "Trump’s win-loss record is worse than he pretends"

The TLR is the last paragraph.

2016 Republican primaries. Trump won more support in 39 of the 54 contested nomination fights in 2016, according to a review of the year’s results. That includes nine wins after he locked up the nomination with a victory in the Indiana primary.

2016 general election. Trump won more electoral votes than Hillary Clinton but lost the popular vote by 2.9 million ballots. Republicans also saw their House majority slip by six votes and lost two Senate seats.

2018 elections. Trump made more than 130 endorsements in 2018, including both primary and general election endorsements for some candidates. Most of his endorsed primary candidates won (35 of 37) but his candidates won a bit over half of their general-election fights (56 of 95). That includes six state-level candidates in Texas, for example, as well as several almost-certain red-state governor candidates.

Nationally, his party was battered, losing more than 40 seats in the House. Republicans gained two seats in the Senate, thanks to a favorable map (picking up seats Democrats gained in the 2012 presidential cycle), something that Trump seized upon as proof of his effectiveness as a party leader.

2020 elections. The Republican Party was assertive about boxing out challengers to Trump in the 2020 party primaries, rendering an assessment of those contests about as useful as parsing the vote totals for Kim Jong Un’s most recent reelection bid.

He made more than 300 endorsements in primary and general-election contests, with his primary candidates winning in 117 of the 121 identified by Ballotpedia. In general elections, his candidates won 142 of 182. Those wins were again driven higher by endorsing numerous incumbents; more than half of his wins were incumbents winning primaries and then retaining their positions.

The marquee race that year, of course, was his own, with Trump again losing the popular vote as he also trailed in the electoral college. His party also lost control of the Senate, though it did add 14 seats in the House.

2022 elections. With an eye on announcing his candidacy for the 2024 presidential nomination, Trump made nearly 500 endorsements in the most recent cycle. Most were successful, thanks to his making a number of endorsements aimed at boosting his total. (His endorsement of Doug Mastriano’s gubernatorial primary bid in Pennsylvania, for example, came only after it was clear Mastriano would win — and as it seemed possible that his endorsed Senate candidate, Mehmet Oz, might not make the general.) In total, Trump’s candidates won 224 of 241 primary races and 208 of 254 general-election ones.

Ballotpedia also broke out key battleground races for 2022, contests that weren’t simply Trump rubber-stamping the likely Republican winner. In those, they estimate, Trump’s candidate won in only 14 of 37 general-election contests (though the results are incomplete, awaiting other election calls). That includes Oz’s loss in Pennsylvania.

Overall, Trump’s party underperformed expectations, failing to retake the Senate while only barely taking a majority in the House. For Democrats, it was a surprisingly good year, given how midterm elections usually go for the party of a new president.

The overall analysis?

Trump’s position with the Republican Party, then, might be the worst one possible: very effective at getting his candidates to win primaries by speaking to his base — but ineffective at getting those candidates to win in November. His base makes up a sizable chunk of the GOP, yes, but a much smaller part of the electorate. His polarizing effect on the primary electorate aids Republicans who side with him, but his polarizing effect overall probably often hurts his candidates.

[callipygoustp]

@Kaleredar;@Breccia

I figured it was a case of someone who is connected to Trump. Was, genuinely, wondering if there was something deeper I was missing.

[Breccia]

Was, genuinely, wondering if there was something deeper I was missing.

First, kind of, GloriFi is heavily backed by known Trump cabalist Peter Thiel. I don't believe that was in the recently-quoted article.

Two, come @ me bro.

[Edge-]

First, kind of, GloriFi is heavily backed by known Trump cabalist Peter Thiel. I don't believe that was in the recently-quoted article.

Two, come @ me bro.

Wait, I missed this. Thiel backed yet another losing venture? Boy, that's probably a nice cherry on top of almost all his chosen candidates losing. No wonder he wants to create his own island for rich people, nobody to mock him for being a super huge fuckin loser. He can't even use one of the dating apps he's fuckin backing because he's not allowed to as a gay dude, lol.

I'm just waiting for him to be shocked that aligning with a bunch of leopards that want to eat gay peoples faces might result in him getting his face nibbled on at some point. And then expect the world to feel empathetic and bad for him because he's oppressed and literally nah fuck all that jazz. For the amount of harm he's caused, and continues to cause? He can suffer.

[Redwyrm]

Pence "likely" to run for President in 2024. AHAHAHAHAHA *deep breath* AHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Can't think of a candidate more hated by both sides of politics than Pence

[Edge-]

Pence "likely" to run for President in 2024. AHAHAHAHAHA *deep breath* AHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I mean, he really seems into the humiliation at this point. Or maybe it's Mother that's into it and he must do Mother's bidding.

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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...be-2022-11-22/

Nov 22 (Reuters) - Former U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday asked a federal court in Florida to provide him and his lawyers with a complete version of the affidavit that federal investigators used to obtain a search warrant for his Florida property in August.

Fuckin lolnope. Has he signed an affidavit certifying which documents were "his" yet? No? Lol.

[Breccia]

Pence "likely" to run for President in 2024. AHAHAHAHAHA *deep breath* AHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Please, let Harris run against him. I can't wait to see the debates when Pence can't talk with another woman.

Pence has got to be the single least popular person in the human centipede that is the current Republican Party. He was a classic Republican, tasked with keeping Trump in line, he failed in every way. Meanwhile Trump's insane murderous insurrection was aimed at murdering him specifically. He could be the first person to run on a major party and get trounced by a third party.

By the way, Trump's back in court again -- the DOJ are asking for the "special master" to be thrown out on the grounds of "there was never a reason for him to be there in the first place".

Days after Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed a special counsel to take over the investigation, Justice Department attorneys are expected to urge the 11th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals to end a document-vetting arrangement, instated by a lower court, that prosecutors have argued has slowed the investigation into the material the FBI seized from the Florida resort in August.

On appeal, the Justice Department is arguing that U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon lacked jurisdiction to hear Mr. Trump’s objections to the Mar-a-Lago search. It was in response to those objections that she named a so-called special master to review the documents and determine whether some of them are privileged and should be kept from investigators’ view.

The oral argument is scheduled for 2 p.m. in Atlanta before a three-member panel drawn at random Tuesday morning from the appeals court bench. Alongside Chief Judge William Pryor Jr., it includes Judges Britt Grant and Andrew Brasher, both of whom were on the panel that ruled against Mr. Trump in another aspect of the same case in September. Judges Grant and Brasher were both appointed by Mr. Trump, and Chief Judge Pryor was appointed by former President George W. Bush.

The hearing comes as the criminal investigation into the handling of the documents is moving ahead, with Mr. Garland naming veteran war-crimes and public-corruption prosecutor Jack Smith as special counsel to oversee it. Some former prosecutors said his appointment signals that the Justice Department might consider its probe close to having amassed enough evidence for an indictment. Mr. Trump has denied wrongdoing and called the appointment of a special counsel “disgraceful.”

Mr. Smith is expected to work on the Trump investigations from the Netherlands in the coming weeks as he recovers from injuries suffered in a biking accident there, officials said. Since 2018 he has been working in The Hague as chief prosecutor of war crimes committed in Kosovo.

In a filing on Monday, the Justice Department notified the 11th Circuit that Mr. Smith reviewed and approved the arguments the department plans to make at Tuesday’s argument.

On Friday, Mr. Smith said he would keep the investigation moving quickly and Mr. Garland said he would give him the resources to do so.

[Edge-]

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/1...turns-00070530

After 3 years of delay tactics, it appears the House might finally receive Trump's tax returns. Only a few months to do anything with it before Republicans take over and abandon efforts to hold Trump accountable and instead focus on how Hunter Biden's laptop is the most important thing in the world, and I'm sure they'll find another excuse to investigate Hillary while they're at it.

[Rasulis]

Wait, I missed this. Thiel backed yet another losing venture? Boy, that's probably a nice cherry on top of almost all his chosen candidates losing. No wonder he wants to create his own island for rich people, nobody to mock him for being a super huge fuckin loser. He can't even use one of the dating apps he's fuckin backing because he's not allowed to as a gay dude, lol.

I'm just waiting for him to be shocked that aligning with a bunch of leopards that want to eat gay peoples faces might result in him getting his face nibbled on at some point. And then expect the world to feel empathetic and bad for him because he's oppressed and literally nah fuck all that jazz. For the amount of harm he's caused, and continues to cause? He can suffer.

It spent way too much time convincing potential customers that by doing business there they’d be owning the libs. It forgot that banks in startup mode are supposed to be focused primarily on one thing: offering attractive rates on deposits to bring in new customer accounts and to be able to expand to more products like car loans and mortgages. Not alienating half of its potential customers.

[Edge-]

It spent way too much time convincing potential customers that by doing business there they’d be owning the libs. It forgot that banks in startup mode are supposed to be focused primarily on one thing: offering attractive rates on deposits to bring in new customer accounts and to be able to expand to more products like car loans and mortgages. Not alienating half of its potential customers.

Who knew that "owning the libs" most often results in "owning yourself". Are they all secretly libs so it's actually "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"?

[Fugus]

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/1...turns-00070530

After 3 years of delay tactics, it appears the House might finally receive Trump's tax returns. Only a few months to do anything with it before Republicans take over and abandon efforts to hold Trump accountable and instead focus on how Hunter Biden's laptop is the most important thing in the world, and I'm sure they'll find another excuse to investigate Hillary while they're at it.

Get it and hand it off to the new special counsel appointed to look into his other cases.

Make sure to take it out of the houses hands before the traitors retake control of it.

[Breccia]

Today, Senator Graham appeared before the Fulton County Special Grand Jury for just over two hours and answered all questions. The Senator feels he was treated with respect, professionalism and courtesy. Out of respect for the grand jury process he will not comment on the substance of the questions.

-- Sen. Graham, serial subpoena-dodger, by statement

Guess all that fleeing that made him look guilty was for nothing.

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Judge sets Trump NYState fraud trial for Oct 2023.

"But he's running for office!"

Yes.

"Him being held accountable for all those things he did is going to be such an obstacle!"

I know. *sips coffee* It's perfect.

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ew-gop-leader/

Jesus, Murdoch wasn't kidding when he reportedly told Trump he'd turn his media empire against him if he ran again. NY Post has already been hitting Trump left and right, but they've got another salvo with an op-ed from Bill Barr, Trump's former AG and the guy who installed Durham to investigate literal conspiracy theories -

“Unless the rest of the party goes along with him, he will burn the whole house down by leading ‘his people’ out of the GOP,” Barr said in a scathing op-ed published in the New York Post on Monday.

“Trump’s willingness to destroy the party if he does not get his way is not based on principle, but on his own supreme narcissism,” he added. “His egoism makes him unable to think of a political party as anything but an extension of himself — a cult of personality.”

I'll once again take a moment to remind the internet that literally everyone predicted this would happen and Republicans went and saddled up with Trump anyways.

In fact, didn't Lindsey Graham have something to say about this?

If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it.

Well damn, if Graham ever decides to get out of politics I'm sure he'll be a shoe-in to replace Ms. Cleo! Dial the number below for your first fortune for half off the normal rate, and an additional 20% off that if you sign up for five more sessions!

[Shadowferal]

Trump allies shed fear of former boss as they eye 2024

[Flarelaine]

Pence has got to be the single least popular person in the human centipede that is the current Republican Party. He was a classic Republican, tasked with keeping Trump in line, he failed in every way. Meanwhile Trump's insane murderous insurrection was aimed at murdering him specifically. He could be the first person to run on a major party and get trounced by a third party.

Akshually... Then-incumbent President Taft (Republican) finished behind Teddy Roosevelt (Progressive) in 1912. It was 88-8 which I reckon counts as trouncing.