Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Edge-]

Let the public crawl through those feeds and pull out ANY bad actions they find.

Man, if they wanted to bring back whatever that shitty Live PD show or whatever, and instead of a bunch of claps on the back for cops it was just watching recently released footage of police incidents for viewers to phone in reports of police abuse and lawlessness, I'd be super down for it.

Let's crowdsource and gamify police accountability!

[Egomaniac]

That's why I'm of the opinion that all police body- and vehicle-camera footage should be made publicly accessible after two weeks. That's enough time to edit footage if there's something relevant to an ongoing case. Said edits in the case of police malice like this would only be justifiable if said officer had already been criminally charged for their actions and the footage was secured for the prosecution's use in court.

Let the public crawl through those feeds and pull out ANY bad actions they find.

Yeah, and the police department in question is now complaining because releasing the footage like this could "compromise their investigation"....fucking bullshit.

[Edge-]

Yeah, and the police department in question is now complaining because releasing the footage like this could "compromise their investigation"....fucking bullshit.

"This makes it incredibly hard for us to investigate ourselves and show that we did nothing wrong!"

Is basically what they're saying.

[Omega10]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/17/us/po...int/index.html



Not a perfect solution, but more steps being taken towards holding police accountable and pushing for cops to stop protecting bad officers.

This is THE solution, long term.

Or at least a huge part of THE solution.

This is the best news I've read in a long time. It means that people are trying to take general ideas (Black Lives Matter, for example), and turn them into meaningful action. Ultimately, SOMEONE has to step up and call out bad cops. Waiting for them to get videotaped while killing someone is just not efficient or overall effective.

The worst enemy of a good cop is a bad cop. This gives good cops a chance to fight back. Oh yeah, it will be messy and complicated. So is everything else worth fighting for. And this is concrete positive action that is actually happening.

[Egomaniac]

"This makes it incredibly hard for us to investigate ourselves and show that we did nothing wrong!"

Is basically what they're saying.

More like "Oh shit, Now we have to pretend that we were actually investigating this before we once again lie about what actually happened"

[Easo]

Not sure if this was posted, but here we go:

A US jail inmate died gasping for breath minutes after police officers held him face down, with one taunting: "You shouldn't be able to breathe."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57194883

Officials have defended their handling of the incident, saying Mr Jennette was "extremely unruly".

[Masark]

Two more cops get off for murder.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...mming-n1268143

But one fewer scumbag elsewhere. Though he's been getting paid for the past 4 years.

https://kstp.com/news/federal-judge-...6117382/?cat=1

https://kstp.com/news/st-paul-police...2019-/5564579/

[jonnysensible]

do they not teach US cops about positional asphyxia? the first fucking rule here is you get people to their feet ASAP.

[Easo]

do they not teach US cops about positional asphyxia? the first fucking rule here is you get people to their feet ASAP.

Well, let's remember that the average training time in USA is just a couple months (in some cases literally few weeks) across the country (another reminder that it is something like 2 years in Europe), in which you gotta learn about required parts of law, weapons training, day to day job tasks, basic psychology, etc. That should be your answer.

[Edge-]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...riot?_amp=true

Feds busted into the wrong home looking for insurrection fucks that stole Nancy Pelosi's laptop. That's not good, at all. Questionable "identification" based on blurry photo's and location data shouldn't be enough for a raid on a fuckin home in the middle of the night.

Raids are bad, mmmmkay.

[Deus Mortis]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...riot?_amp=true

Feds busted into the wrong home looking for insurrection fucks that stole Nancy Pelosi's laptop. That's not good, at all. Questionable "identification" based on blurry photo's and location data shouldn't be enough for a raid on a fuckin home in the middle of the night.

Raids are bad, mmmmkay.

I hope they sue and win.

[tehdang]

Two more cops get off for murder.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...mming-n1268143

But one fewer scumbag elsewhere. Though he's been getting paid for the past 4 years.

https://kstp.com/news/federal-judge-...6117382/?cat=1

https://kstp.com/news/st-paul-police...2019-/5564579/

The people of Jackson should demand body cameras for their policemen.

[Edge-]

The people of Jackson should demand body cameras for their policemen.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ronal...b752c9a92?ncid

It's hardly a cure-all. The lead officer in the lynching a few years back, Lt. John Clary, had a body camera on when he and his colleagues lynched a Black man. He and his colleagues then spent two years lying about it until the footage was leaked.

Body cameras don't matter if cops can just turn them off or shield them without punishment, or can lie and have their colleagues join in a conspiracy to lie on their behalf, about wearing or activating one.

There needs to be proper civilian oversight of law enforcement across the nation, from small towns to state law enforcement agencies. Why? Because after this many years and an increasing number of incidents of police lying, it's clear that they cannot be trusted as an institution.

[tehdang]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ronal...b752c9a92?ncid

It's hardly a cure-all. The lead officer in the lynching a few years back, Lt. John Clary, had a body camera on when he and his colleagues lynched a Black man. He and his colleagues then spent two years lying about it until the footage was leaked.

Body cameras don't matter if cops can just turn them off or shield them without punishment, or can lie and have their colleagues join in a conspiracy to lie on their behalf, about wearing or activating one.

There needs to be proper civilian oversight of law enforcement across the nation, from small towns to state law enforcement agencies. Why? Because after this many years and an increasing number of incidents of police lying, it's clear that they cannot be trusted as an institution.

Body Cameras and strict laws governing any lying by omission of body camera footage. Regardless of how culpable an officer might think he behavior was in retrospect, the fear of god ought to be put in him to not destroy the footage and lie about it. Civil penalties against the department, criminal penalties against the officers and any in conspiracy, and agreements with police unions for speedy firing.

"Trusted as an institution" is a little too loaded and overbroad. Inner city departments with strong police union protections and uniparty AG/dept control and candidate endorsement are one extreme of earned distrust. The rural department with no unarmed deaths, manslaughters connected to any police interactions, etc is a different matter. Baltimore PD, LAPD vs the county sheriff in Center Junction, Iowa, population ~100.

[Masark]

The rural department with no unarmed deaths, manslaughters connected to any police interactions, etc is a different matter. Baltimore PD, LAPD vs the county sheriff in Center Junction, Iowa, population ~100.

Yeah, the rural department just commits grand larceny, not murder. Totally trustworthy.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/americ...oney-1.2760736

And that's not even considering "legal" revenue policing that such small towns often basically run their governments off of.

[tehdang]

Yeah, the rural department just commits grand larceny, not murder. Totally trustworthy.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/americ...oney-1.2760736

And that's not even considering "legal" revenue policing that such small towns often basically run their governments off of.

Civil asset forfeiture has seen encouraging changes in the legal treatment, laws in states (see Arizona), and federal prosecutions. I don't put it in the same basket as body cams / lying about body cam footage. It went from some underappreciated issue out of public consciousness to major stories in court (up to the point that a NC judge threatened to jail town commissioners and the police chief over the issue).

[Edge-]

https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/hous...apist-lawsuit/

And more awful police behavior, sounds like the bros in Houston PD were having a grand old time roping newer female colleagues into doing undercover bachelor party stings. Women who weren't really trained for this kind of work, who were repeatedly sexually harassed and assaulted by their own colleagues, who were treated beyond unprofessionally and gross by their colleagues and bosses, and who functionally seemed to be viewed as sex objects.

Fire every cop involved and prosecute them for sexual assault, rape, and whatever else they may have done. Maybe Houston needs to hire less dudes since they apparently have trouble finding officers who aren't pretty fuckin rapey.

Bonus points: Chief Deputy Chris Gore ordered one of the women to buy sex toys while they were both at a sex shop, using taxpayer funding.

Gomez was ordered to accompany Chief Gore to an adult sex shop where he would “pick out some props” and “work on chemistry” with her. After picking up a product labeled “cock sleeve,” Chief Gore commented to the young female deputy “oh I bet you would like this.” He also instructed Gomez to purchase dildos and to “pick out the ones you would personally prefer.” These sex toys were paid for with County funds. This trip to the sex shop was also the first of several instances where Chief Gore told Liz Gomez she was not allowed to work with any other male deputies…she was “his.”

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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...e-floyd-489803

Through the first four months of the year, there have been just six days in which police across the United States did not kill anyone.

Now there are plenty of justified police shootings, but that in roughly 120 days there have been six without a death due to a police shooting is pretty stunning. That's 5%, FYI.

[Masark]

And another attempted murder. Evidently he got scared by her making a u-turn.

https://www.kwtx.com/2021/05/25/woma...-the-hospital/

[Edge-]

And another attempted murder. Evidently he got scared by her making a u-turn.

https://www.kwtx.com/2021/05/25/woma...-the-hospital/

Cool, so an off-duty cop with road rage compensating for what I imagine is a tiny penis. Investigate it, but it seems pretty clear that the officer should be fired, blacklisted from law enforcement, and prosecuted for assault with a deadly weapon at a minimum.

Were this dude anyone other than an off-duty cop their name would already be public and they'd be confirmed to be in custody. I don't see either in this article.

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https://twitter.com/TomEngel18/statu...39502184566787

I guess Canada has their own shitty "thin blue line" flag too? Apparently the Edmonton Police Association was flying it...on the anniversary of the murder of George Floyd.

[Edge-]

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...6eed7d7ac.html

We got a twofer here.

Current Republican Rep. in Missouri, Chad (yes, Chad) Perkins used to be a cop. While he was a cop?

According to a report obtained from Frankford Police Chief Josh Baker in response to an open records request, state Rep. Chad Perkins, a Bowling Green Republican, allegedly accepted “sexual favors from a teenage girl while on duty” as a police officer.

...

In Facebook messages contained in the report, the teen asks, “Working tonight?”

“Nope,” Perkins replied.

“Shooot. Kinda wanted round two,” the teen said.

Later, Perkins asks her what clothes she is wearing.

“Oh, nothing at all,” she said.

Eight days later, on April 30, 2015, Perkins messaged the teen, saying, “Working today. Round two tonight.”

The report said the allegations surfaced when an employee at a local gas station said two girls were in the store in July 2020 “showing people messages between Chad Perkins and the (teen) indicating that he had sex with her while on duty as a Bowling Green police officer.”

Seems like he was bangin this teen while on the job, meaning he was getting taxpayer dollars to fuck a teenager.