The Ongoing 2020 Election: Maricopa County Recount

[BronzeCondor]

No, Maricopa was just kinda done playing Cyber Ninja's pathetic games. They are not deserving of serious treatment or credibility.

Again, they were looking for bamboo fibers in ballots and using blacklights looking for secret Trump watermarks. These people are fundamentally unserious.

That's an interesting personal narrative you try to paint.

[PhaelixWW]

Maybe that was the expectation before Maricopa wanted to play games. Why did it take them so long to give them the ballot envelope images?

It's not Maricopa playing games. It's a delaying tactic, and a bald-faced obfuscation by Cyber Ninjas.

Last week, Maricopa County officials said they'd already sent the images to the Cyber Ninjas review team in the past and were simply resending them. Randy Pullen, a spokesman for the Senate-sponsored audit, told CNN that the ballot images would not be handled by Cyber Ninjas. [source]

Audit spokesperson Randy Pullen told ABC15 that they have also obtained the envelope images for the county’s 1.9 million early ballots. Pullen said a separate contractor will analyze the images and write another report that will be delivered to the state senate at a later date. Pullen anticipated that the process may take about five days once a contract with a vendor is finalized. [source]

This is just the everything-but-the-kitchen-sink excuse time for the Cyber Ninjas stooges.

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I guess the ballot envelope images got lost in the mail, silly me.

I guess you should do your homework, sealion.

[Edge-]

That's an interesting personal narrative you try to paint.

Have you literally not been following anything? Because that's what happened. It helps to actually do a bit of light reading about a topic before jumping in an making proclamations that are just painfully wrong.

[Benggaul]

It helps to actually do a bit of light reading about a topic before jumping in an making proclamations that are just painfully wrong.

AKA trolling.

[BronzeCondor]

Have you literally not been following anything? Because that's what happened. It helps to actually do a bit of light reading about a topic before jumping in an making proclamations that are just painfully wrong.

That's how you choose to characterize it.

I mean you did just say that Maricopa finally handed over the ballot envelope images because "they were tired of Cyber Ninja's games", yet they handed over other things before... so why hold out and wait until the last second on these specific items, then claim that Maricopa isn't playing games?

Not that I think much will come of whatever they are hoping to find with the envelope images, but to say that Maricopa isn't play games by refusing to work with the audit and answer questions (playing the role of FACT CHECKER!), or by picking what they choose to provide to the audit and when, just looks dumb, real dumb.

[Edge-]

That's how you choose to characterize it.

Do you think looking for bamboo fibers and secret watermarks is the behavior of a serious group?

Not that I think much will come of whatever they are hoping to find with the envelope images, but to say that Maricopa isn't play games by refusing to work with the audit and answer questions (playing the role of FACT CHECKER!), or by picking what they choose to provide to the audit and when, just looks dumb.

"Audit" in quotes, because no remotely credible individual can call this an audit. This is not an actual audit, this is a conspiracy theory fueled by the state Senate Republicans.

Bamboo. Fucking. Fibers.

You're as fundamentally unserious as the Cyber Ninjas.

[PhaelixWW]

I mean you did just say that Maricopa finally handed over the ballot envelope images because "they were tired of Cyber Ninja's games", yet they handed over other things before... so why hold out and wait until the last second on these specific items, then claim that Maricopa isn't playing games?

Maricopa handed over the ballot envelope images to Cyber Ninjas a long time ago. There was no "last-minute".

Try harder.

[BronzeCondor]

Do you think looking for bamboo fibers and secret watermarks is the behavior of a serious group?

"Audit" in quotes, because no remotely credible individual can call this an audit. This is not an actual audit, this is a conspiracy theory fueled by the state Senate Republicans.

Bamboo. Fucking. Fibers.

You're as fundamentally unserious as the Cyber Ninjas.

There's the deflection.

[Edge-]

Maricopa handed over the ballot envelope images to Cyber Ninjas a long time ago. There was no "last-minute".

Try harder.

Wait...so the dishonest "audit firm" lied about not receiving the ballot envelope images "until the last minute" as an excuse, paired with the, "We have real bad covid" to justify why they missed their report deadline that's already 4 months behind the initial deadline?

[BronzeCondor]

Wait...so the dishonest "audit firm" lied about not receiving the ballot envelope images "until the last minute" as an excuse, paired with the, "We have real bad covid" to justify why they missed their report deadline that's already 4 months behind the initial deadline?

For the record, I think both sides are idiots in this.

[Edge-]

For the record, I think both sides are idiots in this.

At least you've now completed the bad-faith trifecta.

[Ivanstone]

For the record, I think both sides are idiots in this.

Correct. The Arizona GOP and Cyber ninjas are both idiots.

I will allow a “both sides” argument this one time. You will not be getting a free pass to do it again.

[PhaelixWW]

Wait...so the dishonest "audit firm" lied about not receiving the ballot envelope images "until the last minute" as an excuse, paired with the, "We have real bad covid" to justify why they missed their report deadline that's already 4 months behind the initial deadline?

They obfuscated in an attempt to mislead the gullible people of the country that Cyber Ninjas was the victim.

(Narrator: It worked.)

[BronzeCondor]

At least you've now completed the bad-faith trifecta.

You have Maricopa County failing to work with the audit to answer questions, then when the auditors raise any concerns, Maricopa County plays the role of Fact Checker on Twitter to provide answers, making the auditors look like idiots, when they could have done it in the first place and avoided the stupid PR game.

You have the Cyber Ninjas CEO being a certified Q-Tard, which just set a bad tone for the audit to begin with, along with entertaining Q-Tard concerns. I also think they are slow walking their report for political reasons.

Both are trying to make their respective opposing party look bad.

4 months ago to be more precise.

Well obviously not, since it's been an on-going concern with the auditors.

[Edge-]

then when the auditors raise any concerns, Maricopa County plays the role of Fact Checker on Twitter to provide answers

Almost like the "concerns" are blatant, obvious lies. Weird how Maricopa would respond to obvious lies designed to impugn the integrity of the results with actual facts and information?

Yeah, they're the baddies.

Get back in the clown car.

[Kaleredar]

You have Maricopa County failing to work with the audit to answer questions, then when the auditors raise any concerns, Maricopa County plays the role of Fact Checker on Twitter to provide answers, making the auditors look like idiots, when they could have done it in the first place and avoided the stupid PR game.

You have the Cyber Ninjas CEO being a certified Q-Tard, which just set a bad tone for the audit to begin with, along with entertaining Q-Tard concerns. I also think they are slow walking their report for political reasons.

Both are trying to make their respective opposing party look bad.



Well obviously not, since it's been an on-going concern with the auditors.

I’m not interested in both sides here.

One “side” is a government body responsible for elections whose results were verified and whose results have never been called into question previously nor have they had any reason to be.

The other “side” is a company with no experience in auditing elections run by a conspiracy theorist being paid off by the losing side of the election.

Maricopa should be doing everything in its power to make them look stupid, though it’s obvious cyber ninja doesn’t need much help in that regard.

[Fugus]

It appears that since the pigeon has returned this thread and a few others will become unreadable again due to people who love the pigeon is much they keep throwing food at them….

[unfilteredJW]

That's an interesting personal narrative you try to paint.

The fucking gall.

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It appears that since the pigeon has returned this thread and a few others will become unreadable again due to people who love the pigeon is much they keep throwing food at them….

And here you are again adding to the clutter.

[Fugus]

And here you are again adding to the clutter.

Yep, no worse than you are on the situation while also making the thread equally unreadable in the process.

[BronzeCondor]

Yep, no worse than you are on the situation while also making the thread equally unreadable in the process.

To be fair, the thread is mostly one side of the argument getting off to themselves providing short/non-contributing political responses to the thread.

Again, "You disagree with what I have to say? YOU'RE A TROLL, YOU ARE DERAILING, etc, etc" ad nauseum.