I get what you mean, but that particular contradiction is easily explained by the Jailer forcing her into taking the position against her own wishes via Vol'jin's death.
Jailer wants Sylvanas to take over Horde leadership, she is hesitant. Jailer gets impatient, tells Muez'hala to trick Vol'jin into naming her. Vol'jin names her, Sylvanas stands at the pyre staring into space thinking "fuck, now what" until she decides there's nothing else to do but follow the Jailer's plan instead of her own preference of subterfuge.
That would make sense if we hadn't been literally reading her internal thoughts and there was zero mention of any of that except for "damn you Vol'jin". Plus her whole plan of destroying Stormwind and raising the denizens as Forsaken which went entirely unaddressed afterwards. There were no hints that she was playing at something larger within her own thoughts, and it all reads like a massive disconnect between Christie Golden and whoever was dictating the direction of WoW's story.
At least when Metzen was inconsistent with the Eredar/Draenei he said 'ya we fucked up lol'
These days we are apparently just too stupid to understand Danuser's hidden genius.
Did someone have the chance to interview a developer and ask them directly if they are aware of some lore inconsistencies about these topics? Maybe they will be upfront about this. Hazzikostas doesn't hide when the result isn't up to what they were aiming for or if they misread reception, etc... Danuser or his team could very well be open on it too
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They never did. We just all assumed. But if the dude from highmountain could have just been a red herring, it could have happened at any time: his soul could have been saved from the maw just like Alexandros.
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I mean "she's now the ranger AND the banshee" is what the fans considered her before Teldrassil anyway I think we're all going to pretend last 4 years never happened.
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https://ptr.wowhead.com/news/how-the...zing-of-325337
I enjoy how confident you are despite being completely wrong.
Darkseer Corrupter: Long have we awaited this moment. The Banished One's gambit made manifest...
Darkseer Corrupter: A world-soul twisted by Death. A maul with which to crush the Arbiter...
Darkseer Corrupter: And now it shall take this vessel! Argus will be Eternal!
C'mon man. It was obvious before they confirmed it, what are you doing.
He/the Dreadlords didn't need to know, at least not until shortly before it happened, until we started pushing back the Legion's invasion.
Argus was being pumped full of Death energies, it is likely that the plan was for the Dreadlords to "gently push" Argus to the Shadowlands at some point, and then not only disable the Arbiter, but completely take her over - a modification of which we see in the 9.2 quest we're talking about, with the Dreadlords attempting to insert Argus as the new Arbiter.
Mortals killing Argus prematurely sent this plan stumbling forward, with presumably not enough Anima yet to launch an attack on/reach Oribos, even with the regular flow of souls falling into the Maw.
Starting to go more into speculation here, Zovaal was probably like "hey, we got this leader of a great power on this very populated world in our pocket, have her start a global war with lots of casualties and 'promise' her a seat at the table" and later "hmm, this world has several powerful goody-two-shoes, if we could turn them, that could be useful".
But your duty to Azeroth is not yet complete. More is demanded of you... a price the living cannot pay.
1. The titans used Argus as a magic amplifier to be able to summon Sargeras (the Titans in their current state do not have any power that's outside their little pantheon throne, thus they needed something to be able to pull Sargeras back to them and then use Argus' remaining power to lock him into place).
2. The arbiter feels every emotion the individual had during it's lifetime, granted that Argus has been tortured for probably a thousand years is what broke her, not persé because it was a titan soul after all, she wouldn't have issues processing the other members of the pantheon other than Sargeras for example.
When are we going to fix the giant sword that's still stabbed into Azeroth? I feel like that should have cause some problems at this point, if not because of all the over the top stuff, at least I'd imagine there'd be some Ecological trouble at this point.
Not all of it is pre-planned. The Jailer's genius shines through at grasping opportunities when they present themselves. E.g keeping tabs on Syl through the Valkyr, is a conscious move, and having her skip the arbiter. Her death at the hand of Arthas for example was unplanned, she was a nobody at this point in the grander scheme of things.
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Thanks for the edit!
This is a perfect way to sum up how the Jailer did all he did. He's an opportunist and we played into his ultimate goal over the long game. He didn't care if it was now or 200 years from now. At some point, he would find somebody to pull the living into the shadowlands and help open the maw back up, etc.