wow, reduced time to level from 85-90. that will really bring the people flooding back. and cheaper heirlooms will make it even QUICKER to get through the content.
so, you are defending the developers of the game, on the basis they are bringing in two changes that mean people can finish a part of their game quicker. its weird, most games that i enjoy i dont want to end at all. making them quicker would be a negative change. i guess WoW these days just works a little differently.
When challenging a Kzin, a simple scream of rage is sufficient. You scream and you leap.
Originally Posted by George CarlinOriginally Posted by Douglas Adams
4m. So you guys finally would have won. WoW is officially dead and guys like me who really enjoy this game could browse mmo-c without this stupid threads showing up everywhere.
By the way, how many "infractions" does it need for Jaylock to be bannend permanently?
Last edited by Hubbl3; 2013-05-18 at 11:13 AM.
I'm sorry but I cannot write every single post with Will Xanzul take this wrong way in mind.
You know you don't have to read these threads? No one is forcing you to, in fact I'm pretty sure had the people arguing on Blizzard's behalf had not posted in this thread it would have dropped off of the front page long ago.
Yes, these thread add so much of value to the game and mankind! Pulling numbers out of our asses and then making reasons up why WoW is shrinking. And in the end nothing is accomplished. The "WoW is dying because it's too hard" fraction will never ever listen to the "WoW is dying because it's too easy" fraction. These threads add nothing and accomplish nothing. Oh, I'm worng. They are a way to push the postcounter without saying anything of value.
You could say the same about all of the threads on this site.
This thread is about predicting the sub numbers for Q2 of course many people will get it wrong if you look at the thread for Q1 the majority of people thought it would be no higher than 300k.
Like it or not WOW is not in good shape, should we just ignore that or should we discuss what we think is behind it? Surely by discussing the problems we perceive with WOW we can give Blizzard a better idea of how the player base feels and how they can deal with it?
Well you've got two extra posts out of this very page so don't knock it.
I think WoW is doing fine. If WoW is "not in good shape". What state is EVE in, with 500k subs?
Lots of people say EVE is in amazing shape for how old it is.
It is all relative, are they making as much money when WoW has 12 million subs sure they are not, but "not in a good shape" sorry that is total utter BS.
Do you think threads like these are "discussing the problem" its just a thread for fanbois and haters to fight in, there is not a single constructive post in this entire thread (including mine!).
I wish more than anything MMO-C did try to discuss the problem but most threads are just haters and fanbois going at it.
Any business or product that is losing customers and has been doing so for over two years is not in good shape regardless of how large it is. If the losses continue at the current rate, although they will slow down at some point, WOW will have less players than Eve in two years time that is a truly frightening prospect.
That is my point as soon as a thread like this pops up it is immediately jumped on by people that feel they have to defend Blizzard but don't get me wrong I do think that part of the point of this thread was to get that reaction.
Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. The fact is that these boards are full of people from all over the world all with different outlooks, ages, etc and it is inevitable that some people will want to discuss things that others do not. Problems arise when the people that do not want to discuss a certain subject decide that others should not discuss it either, as you can see from this thread there are individuals that are clearly not happy with it instead of just ignoring it which would result in the thread dropping off of the first page they post multiple times thus extending the life of the thread. Would you expect someone to sit there screaming at the television that the program showing was crap or to change the channel?
It cannot do any harm.
The majority of people who are unhappy with a service just stop using it they do not tell the business why. Blizzard have a fantastic resource in these and forums like them in which people will gladly give up their time to talk about, in detail, what they like and dislike about WOW.
Last edited by Pann; 2013-05-18 at 12:13 PM.
I wish there was only 3 milions subscribers, with WoW cancelled at the East, to shut up all the haters with their - "WoW East doesn't count".
I wish this 3 milions that left were happy customers, with all the haters and hype hoppers left the game already.
It's obviously going to be lower. No, that does not mean that WoW is dead.
Nor does it mean that your pet peeve is right, and that if they <removed LFR, brought back world PvP, make heroic raids even harder, nerfed crowd control, etc> that everything would be fine. In fact, it'll probably make things worse.
Last edited by paralleluniverse; 2013-05-18 at 12:40 PM.
Why? He is right. There is a reason why Blizzard NEVER releases regional info. All the people would see that WoW isn't all that popular in the west anymore and hasn't been for quite some time.
Personally, my enjoyment of the game doesn't correlate to the sub numbers, as long as I have enough people to raid with.
And right on queue another hater joins the pile.
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Watch out complaining about people who get banned constantly will get you banned. I will never understand why the mods defend people like the OP to the death despite the fact after all their scolding they end up banning the guy anyway. It only makes them look ignorant.