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    did you really need the poll to know which way that was gonna go on this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakushisai View Post
    If you vote trump then you didn't really follow or realize what Bernie was all about.

    Trump will undo and reverse everything Bernie stands for.
    You are missing the point, if Bernie doesn't get the nod, then vote trump and move to Mexico. Because the US will fall apart. Sometimes it's better to burn the house down than try and fix it.

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    4th option -- Jill Stein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    As a Bernie supporter I'll be voting for Trump or Jill Stein.
    Hey look everyone! It's the walking hypocrite every comment before this one was talking about, where he's pissing on everything Bernie stands for just to not vote for "Corrupt Clinton" but voting for "Donald Corrupt".

    Classy fucking dude.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyen View Post
    I'm not american, I don't like either much, but Hillary is clearly the lesser of the two devils by far
    If you want to change something drasticly, sometimes you have the use the greater evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Anti establishment vote.
    This imagined idea of the "establishment" is so cute. It's getting old, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Iron Fist View Post
    4th option -- Jill Stein
    I am highly temped to vote for her, I want a woman, I want a real progressive liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Trump is a total 180 from Sanders. If one was a Sanders supporter it is unlikely they would vote for Trump- whose policies are the literal exact opposite of Sanders.

    This is a slightly nonsensical idea. It relies on a Sanders supporter not actually being interested in any of Sander's policies. Which is bizarre as a premise.
    That's not really true. Trump has divisive rhetoric, and certainly his stance on immigration is completely opposite of Sanders' position on that topic, but they also agree on some major topics. Specifically, they agree about trade agreements harming American workers, they agree on closing ridiculous tax loopholes like carried interest, they agree on getting special interest money out of politics, they agree on the nomination process of their respective parties being 'rigged', and they agree that the American military shouldn't be the world's police force. Trump's rhetoric will turn away most Sanders' supporters, but there will be a few who will look past it to see the positions that Trump and Sanders agree on.

    On topic: I'll cringe as I vote Clinton. At worst, she'll be a hawkish Obama, and although that isn't a great position to be in, it's better than electing the Great American Dictator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarc View Post
    This imagined idea of the "establishment" is so cute. It's getting old, though.
    I'm 45 years old, I have lived under the thumb of the establishment in the US for a long time. I am frustrated that our votes don't count. I'm frustrated that the majority of Americans don't see the crap we have is worse old soviet system. We have the illusion of choice. But in reality we don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarc View Post
    This imagined idea of the "establishment" is so cute. It's getting old, though.
    The "establishment" (i.e., Pay to Play politics) was old and rotten for years now.

    I can understand why so many are tired of status quo. It stinks like shit because that's what it is. (Trump may talk it, but I can't judge too much what he says until I see what he actually does, assuming he becomes pres)

    Trump is an unknown here. If anything, breaking the GOP does make the country a little better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    If you want to change something drasticly, sometimes you have the use the greater evil.
    That's only true if you advocate suicide as a solution to your problems. You are advocating cutting off your nose to spite your face...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    The "establishment" (i.e., Pay to Play politics) was old and rotten for years now.

    I can understand why so many are tired of status quo. It stinks like shit because that's what it is. (Trump may talk it, but I can't judge too much what he says until I see what he actually does, assuming he becomes pres)

    Trump is an unknown here. If anything, breaking the GOP does make the country a little better.
    Trump has been in the news for over 30 years. He was originally satirized on SNL by Phil Heartman, who has been dead for about 20 years.

    What Trump is teaching politicians, is that the issue with pay for government, is not money controlling who gets elected. But, that money not having direct access to the president. It's not that Koch brothers have no place in politics, it's that their place is being president. Being against lobbying, by supporting an oligarchy, is the opposite of being sick of 'pay to play' politics... It's shifting it towards wealth being enouph justification to be president...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyen View Post
    I'm not american, I don't like either much, but Hillary is clearly the lesser of the two devils by far
    I don't think so. Look at her history versus Donald's history. Trump is an idiot and a bigot but Hillary is a war criminal and the she-devil on earth.

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    Trump will say stuff Straight to you
    Hillary will lie & Lie
    to explain..Cold & Carm after what Bill Clinton was

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    AND My Favorite Australian Politician WON....with Beautiful Family beside each other
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    If Bernie isn't on the ballot, then I do a write-in for him. The underhandedness of how Hilary has come out on top appalls me that the Dems would sink those levels, and I don't even need to comment on the comedic farce that is Trump.

    If no write-in, then no vote. Neither Hilary nor Trump are worth it.

    I think about the only saving grace that Trump has, is that he is so filthy fucking rich I don't think he'll be able to be 'bought'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melkorr View Post
    I don't think so. Look at her history versus Donald's history. Trump is an idiot and a bigot but Hillary is a war criminal and the she-devil on earth.
    Hyperbole is what makes Trump better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    I know this poll is open for non-Americans as well, but 52% of Bernie supporters not voting for Hillary would be pretty bad; 45% have voted for Bernie, so draw those percentages out, and Hillary would only get a total of 76.6% of the votes on the Democrat side.
    You must work for revolution messaging. So far, this election cycle in the democratic primary, voter participation has been at about 12.5% - so Sanders has taken about 6% - which means, if half of those kids don't vote for Hillary - she is down 3%. Since a presidential election is really 50 state elections, and the electoral map is pretty unfriendly to republicans, and the motivation of Latinos to vote against trump in states in the southwest will easily outpace any of the self-defeating "liberals" voting trump/stein/writing in sanders. That being said, all those "PUMAs" from 2008 said they would never vote Obama - but they did in the end.
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    Sadly, as a republican for the good of the rest of the world. I have to vote for Hillary. I cannot see Trump with access to Nuclear Arms.

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    If Bernie doesnt get the nomination, with the amount of shit piled at $hillary's feet, including a possible indictment, which if she does win the nomination, it will the simply give the presidency to trump, I will still write in Bernie's name. Its #BernieOrBust. With that, simple half the supporters voting for Bernie, in the end, will doom $hillary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manabomb View Post
    Hey look everyone! It's the walking hypocrite every comment before this one was talking about, where he's pissing on everything Bernie stands for just to not vote for "Corrupt Clinton" but voting for "Donald Corrupt".

    Classy fucking dude.
    He isn't even a Bernie supporter. He's an extremist-right republican, a.k.a a Trump supporter, pretending to be one so as to skew the poll. Look at his posting history and you will see posts are cultural marxism, SJW's, and all the other nutjob stuff the alternate-reality right foams at the mouth about, which is why the poll results are essentially meaningless. Its open to everyone and the results are hidden so you will have loads of Trump supporters like imperial clicking on Trump to make it favorable to them.
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    I wanted Bernie because between the two choices he was most in line with my own values. Repeating this process for Trump and Hillary means I vote for Hillary, even if I'd have preferred someone I liked more.

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