did you really need the poll to know which way that was gonna go on this forum?
did you really need the poll to know which way that was gonna go on this forum?
4th option -- Jill Stein
There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.
That's not really true. Trump has divisive rhetoric, and certainly his stance on immigration is completely opposite of Sanders' position on that topic, but they also agree on some major topics. Specifically, they agree about trade agreements harming American workers, they agree on closing ridiculous tax loopholes like carried interest, they agree on getting special interest money out of politics, they agree on the nomination process of their respective parties being 'rigged', and they agree that the American military shouldn't be the world's police force. Trump's rhetoric will turn away most Sanders' supporters, but there will be a few who will look past it to see the positions that Trump and Sanders agree on.
On topic: I'll cringe as I vote Clinton. At worst, she'll be a hawkish Obama, and although that isn't a great position to be in, it's better than electing the Great American Dictator.
Professor of History at Dalaran University
I'm 45 years old, I have lived under the thumb of the establishment in the US for a long time. I am frustrated that our votes don't count. I'm frustrated that the majority of Americans don't see the crap we have is worse old soviet system. We have the illusion of choice. But in reality we don't.
The "establishment" (i.e., Pay to Play politics) was old and rotten for years now.
I can understand why so many are tired of status quo. It stinks like shit because that's what it is. (Trump may talk it, but I can't judge too much what he says until I see what he actually does, assuming he becomes pres)
Trump is an unknown here. If anything, breaking the GOP does make the country a little better.
That's only true if you advocate suicide as a solution to your problems. You are advocating cutting off your nose to spite your face...
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Trump has been in the news for over 30 years. He was originally satirized on SNL by Phil Heartman, who has been dead for about 20 years.
What Trump is teaching politicians, is that the issue with pay for government, is not money controlling who gets elected. But, that money not having direct access to the president. It's not that Koch brothers have no place in politics, it's that their place is being president. Being against lobbying, by supporting an oligarchy, is the opposite of being sick of 'pay to play' politics... It's shifting it towards wealth being enouph justification to be president...
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Trump will say stuff Straight to you
Hillary will lie & Lie
to explain..Cold & Carm after what Bill Clinton was
Aussie Prime Minister
AND My Favorite Australian Politician WON....with Beautiful Family beside each other
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Trump with Family
I must remember not to post stupid stuff when very drunk.
If Bernie isn't on the ballot, then I do a write-in for him. The underhandedness of how Hilary has come out on top appalls me that the Dems would sink those levels, and I don't even need to comment on the comedic farce that is Trump.
If no write-in, then no vote. Neither Hilary nor Trump are worth it.
I think about the only saving grace that Trump has, is that he is so filthy fucking rich I don't think he'll be able to be 'bought'.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
You must work for revolution messaging. So far, this election cycle in the democratic primary, voter participation has been at about 12.5% - so Sanders has taken about 6% - which means, if half of those kids don't vote for Hillary - she is down 3%. Since a presidential election is really 50 state elections, and the electoral map is pretty unfriendly to republicans, and the motivation of Latinos to vote against trump in states in the southwest will easily outpace any of the self-defeating "liberals" voting trump/stein/writing in sanders. That being said, all those "PUMAs" from 2008 said they would never vote Obama - but they did in the end.
“You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young, and beautiful, piece of ass." - President Donald Trump
Sadly, as a republican for the good of the rest of the world. I have to vote for Hillary. I cannot see Trump with access to Nuclear Arms.
If Bernie doesnt get the nomination, with the amount of shit piled at $hillary's feet, including a possible indictment, which if she does win the nomination, it will the simply give the presidency to trump, I will still write in Bernie's name. Its #BernieOrBust. With that, simple half the supporters voting for Bernie, in the end, will doom $hillary
He isn't even a Bernie supporter. He's an extremist-right republican, a.k.a a Trump supporter, pretending to be one so as to skew the poll. Look at his posting history and you will see posts are cultural marxism, SJW's, and all the other nutjob stuff the alternate-reality right foams at the mouth about, which is why the poll results are essentially meaningless. Its open to everyone and the results are hidden so you will have loads of Trump supporters like imperial clicking on Trump to make it favorable to them.
I wanted Bernie because between the two choices he was most in line with my own values. Repeating this process for Trump and Hillary means I vote for Hillary, even if I'd have preferred someone I liked more.