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    Easy way to remove inflation - new currency every expansion

    Every expansion is like a reset button for equipment so new players can catch up. Achievements get easy or if not doable anymore turn into feats of strength. So Blizzard does everything to level the playfield so all players - new and old - have pretty much the same basis. EXCEPT for gold.

    Sind gold is the currency since vanilla the only way to equalize was to give more and more gold with each expansion so new players can catch up to at least afford basic stuff. But the auction house increased the prices for even basic items until it's pretty much stupid now.

    The solution - have a new currency for each expansion to pay for all stuff. So if you want to buy Legion gear you need to pay with Legion gold and you get legion gold in legion. When you go to BC or WotlK you get BC or WotlK gold. Just think about it for a while before flaming and dismissing the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryos View Post
    Every expansion is like a reset button for equipment so new players can catch up. Achievements get easy or if not doable anymore turn into feats of strength. So Blizzard does everything to level the playfield so all players - new and old - have pretty much the same basis. EXCEPT for gold.

    Sind gold is the currency since vanilla the only way to equalize was to give more and more gold with each expansion so new players can catch up to at least afford basic stuff. But the auction house increased the prices for even basic items until it's pretty much stupid now.

    The solution - have a new currency for each expansion to pay for all stuff. So if you want to buy Legion gear you need to pay with Legion gold and you get legion gold in legion. When you go to BC or WotlK you get BC or WotlK gold. Just think about it for a while before flaming and dismissing the idea.
    I'd be all for this. People sitting on gold mines need to be shut down and this is 100% a great way to go about it rather than shove in things the little people will never touch.

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    terrible idea, it is like a 100% tax on folks that have been around and earned it.

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    This sounds like the most awful idea ever. And in fact it would punish more the very people you're trying to help as prices skyrocket for anything that isn't legion gear and the people who are good at making gold still amass huge pools of gold to dwarf the average players legion gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shimerra View Post
    This sounds like the most awful idea ever. And in fact it would punish more the very people you're trying to help as prices skyrocket for anything that isn't legion gear and the people who are good at making gold still amass huge pools of gold to dwarf the average players legion gold.
    All would start with 0 Legion gold - some are better at making gold - but you can't transfer old success to the new expansion - just like you can't with your current gear. Even mythic gear from Hellfire is useless once you hit level 110. Same would happen with old gold.
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    Why do we need to do this now? It's not like inflation is that much of a problem. Peoples lack of gold is only due to a lack of trying to get more. This expansion has been a huge gold farm for anyone trying. I don't bother with it cause I'll be damned to do garrison more than twice a day, but lots of people have 10+ chars all doing garrisons to make gold. If you want more gold, go get it. Punishing everyone else who does things to make gold isn't the solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunnor View Post
    Why do we need to do this now? It's not like inflation is that much of a problem. Peoples lack of gold is only due to a lack of trying to get more. This expansion has been a huge gold farm for anyone trying.
    EXACTLY and new players enter the game with 0 gold and old players sit on 2-3 million or even more "old" gold. You see the problem?
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    As someone who enjoys making gold from running old raids while farming for mounts/pets/gear/etc. this new system of yours would royally fuck me.

    On an impersonal note....I can't imagine this would effect the AH in anything but a negative way. Having seven different types of currency just feels like a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryos View Post
    EXACTLY and new players enter the game with 0 gold and old players sit on 2-3 million or even more "old" gold. You see the problem?
    No, I don't. You don't need gold for most things. Most things that can be purchased with gold at endgame levels are cosmetic.
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    Inflation is a problem because gold became too easy to get, resulting in everything being purchasable by gold, everyone being able to afford boosts because the amount of effort to get the gold is way lower than the amount of effort needed to achieve the content without boost.
    Not talking about how gold is less satisfying to get because how common it is now.

    Terrible design problem.

    Gold sinks and taxes are not a solution. The only way really, is for Blizzard to 1. stop making gold sources broken 2. create a whole gold draining hype, finding something that everyone are interested in buying, that would be temporary, that wouldn't grant a power benefit. Something that especially the rich players would do. I would say creating a Darkmoon Faire casino but it's certainly not going to happen. Maybe just something that is just insanely fun, so fun that everyone uses their gold. Gl to Blizzard for finding this.
    Or maybe like a political system where you give gold to the game systems and things happen, are built, gives a temporary benefit or rule or modifier (non related to power), dunno.

    They created the repair system, so they can certainly create something as mandatory along those lines, but more gold consuming and more mandatory and that gives something in return.

    Basically gold spent should be higher than gold generated. Sounds easy.

    And take care of gold farming bots, hire some smart programmers dedicated who love WoW and that hates bots, they'll do it guaranteed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryos View Post
    EXACTLY and new players enter the game with 0 gold and old players sit on 2-3 million or even more "old" gold. You see the problem?
    The only problem I see is that some people don't want to work for it.

    I've never been rich in WoW, but I was also never jealous of those that had gold. Gold only gets you so far in this game.

    There's no need for new currencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax Epic View Post
    As someone who enjoys making gold from running old raids while farming for mounts/pets/gear/etc. this new system of yours would royally fuck me.
    On an impersonal note....I can't imagine this would effect the AH in anything but a negative way. Having seven different types of currency just feels like a mess.
    You sell old mounts for old gold and new mounts for new gold.
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    Sounds more like sour grapes because you missed out on the WoD garrison goldmine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryos View Post
    EXACTLY and new players enter the game with 0 gold and old players sit on 2-3 million or even more "old" gold. You see the problem?
    Riiight... There is little evidence to suggest that there are a great number of new players let alone this is a major problem for them. But I do not think that pissing off existing players especially when the game has problems with player retention is the smartest of ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quikbunny View Post
    Sounds more like sour grapes because you missed out on the WoD garrison goldmine.
    Sitting on 3 million gold right now and will have 4 million at legion launch. I just think about the bigger picture not only my personal pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryos View Post
    Every expansion is like a reset button for equipment so new players can catch up. Achievements get easy or if not doable anymore turn into feats of strength. So Blizzard does everything to level the playfield so all players - new and old - have pretty much the same basis. EXCEPT for gold.

    Sind gold is the currency since vanilla the only way to equalize was to give more and more gold with each expansion so new players can catch up to at least afford basic stuff. But the auction house increased the prices for even basic items until it's pretty much stupid now.

    The solution - have a new currency for each expansion to pay for all stuff. So if you want to buy Legion gear you need to pay with Legion gold and you get legion gold in legion. When you go to BC or WotlK you get BC or WotlK gold. Just think about it for a while before flaming and dismissing the idea.
    Thought about it. Terrible idea. This is an MMO, not some rinky dinky ARPG.

    The things you work towards are the things you get to keep. The cost of items is always directly proportionate to their availability and the availability of gold, and people are always able to go out and get more gold if they want to.
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    I would rather see everything go to one standard. Copper and Silver almost feel valueless in the game. The answer may rest in changing the reward system to offer gold or gear as a reward from questing. If you don't need one, you may want the other. This would allow new players a catchup mechanic for money, or a better gearing option (improve the quality of quest rewards), and it would keep a singular currency for anything in the AH or sold by vendors.

    The other thing I would love to see is the cooking currency made standard. Make it the same in SW for Pandaria, etc. Then recipes can still be bought with one currency that is not gold. Like the Marks of the World Tree in Cata. That should have just been Justice Points earned at a lower rate. They were dailies, so no chance of cheating the system. One shopping currency, one cooking currency, one gear currency. Simplicity in my opinion is the more viable alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryos View Post
    Sind gold is the currency since vanilla the only way to equalize was to give more and more gold with each expansion so new players can catch up to at least afford basic stuff. But the auction house increased the prices for even basic items until it's pretty much stupid now.
    What basic stuff are you talking about? The only gold players really *need* is for repairs; you can't play well with busted gear after all.
    Past that, if you don't have gold you participate in the system. Gather something and sell it.

    For anyone reading, it's a blatant plug, but take a look at my piece on the wow economy (link in sig below). Once you understand it, you'll see that the perceptions of inflation only apply to stuff that is anything but basic.

    Edit: Oh. It's not in the sig. I embedded it, sue me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryos View Post
    All would start with 0 Legion gold - some are better at making gold - but you can't transfer old success to the new expansion - just like you can't with your current gear. Even mythic gear from Hellfire is useless once you hit level 110. Same would happen with old gold.
    Do you really not see the flaw in this plan?

    Thing is, YOU CAN transfer your old gold. No problem at all. Think about it.

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    People with millions of gold (that tend to be clever with their stuff!) will just not keep their liquid assets (= gold) but convert it to all kinds of other assets. Pets, mounts, (transmog) gear, everything BoE.
    You could only avoid this situation by not telling anyone about it and just do it. It would work only once and would probably be incredibly popular (right?).

    All this great plan would do is to drive prices much much higher than they are now and deligitimize the currecy.

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