[SPOILERS] Another Major Horde Death after Vol'Jin revealed + Major Exodar Event

[Shibito]

maraad wasn't dead its our maraad who went there we never saw thiers and taylor was all over mop.

Maraad was the one pushing varian to invade AU to stop the horrors he had seen from demon orcs on original draenor and to make up for his selfish bloodlust that resulted in the slaughter of women and children draenei

[Destinas]

Velen doesnt attack us, he just tells us to stop atking the eredar (his son). Velen is on his way to Argus to get Kil'jaeden, not sargeras.


As for Saurfang, has anyone completed the Warrior Class hall campaign? The answer might be there. Theres a ton of lore in every class campaign that people arent looking at.

Velen definitely does attack us. It's around 21 minutes in. In the beta, that fight was hard enough on some classes, and having Velen attack us in the latter part of the fight makes it even harder. Though, granted, he asks us to stop before he pummels us with the Light.

Varok and Danath are never mentioned or seen again. The warrior class campaigns deal with Titan stuff for the most part.

[Deleted]

Velen doesnt attack us, he just tells us to stop atking the eredar (his son). Velen is on his way to Argus to get Kil'jaeden, not sargeras.


As for Saurfang, has anyone completed the Warrior Class hall campaign? The answer might be there. Theres a ton of lore in every class campaign that people arent looking at.

There is a "quest" for Arms that unlocks an artifact skin (the axe) and requires you to duel Saurfang. This takes place after acquiring your artifact weapon, confirming that he does not die (nor does Trollbane).

[Nyel]

Ah yes, in Exodar when you are fighting Velen's son, Velen turns against you during the fight and you have to fight him too, but when his son gets killed Velen stops attacking you, but yea for Velen that was a stupid move since he knew that his son was evil, shouldnt have turned against you

That's what I meant. Such a move is clearly not a "Velen" move.

[greeeed]

Tell you what. When we get to RAID stormwind and kill your king, we'll be even then.

If it was 2 expansions mostly about alliance where they defeat Horde everyone then sure.

Cata and MoP was pro horde to the point alliance was just specter most of them.
They even give us shitty quest will giving Horde a lot of great quest.

They even have best past Patch quest which they remove later.

At-least they give us good patch title in MoP

[Vichan]

bolvar is about around as nazgrim ,taylor being dead on draenor is meaningless as its unlily we will ever go back, khadgar might as well be dead hes no longer an alliance character just cause hes human doesn't make him alliance.

pretty sure khadgar was always neutral though

[Dellis0991]

Velen isn't dead and he broke character because his son was involved and yeah Velen is done with sitting on his ass. The Legion has fucked with him for the last time.

[Nathreim]

There is a "quest" for Arms that unlocks an artifact skin (the axe) and requires you to duel Saurfang. This takes place after acquiring your artifact weapon, confirming that he does not die (nor does Trollbane).

This. Not sure why anyone would think Saurfang was dead just because his mount was shot down. In the Isle of Thunder Blood Elves and the PC are shot down but survive.

[Maxilian]

If it was 2 expansions mostly about alliance where they defeat Horde everyone then sure.

Cata and MoP was pro horde to the point alliance was just specter most of them.
They even give us shitty quest will giving Horde a lot of great quest.

They even have best past Patch quest which they remove later.

At-least they give us good patch title in MoP

People say Cata was pro horde cause of Thrall, we all know that.

MoP pro Horde? it did had a centric horde story (cause they head of the Horde was the villain) and we get to kill him, but i won't call that pro horde.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

pretty sure khadgar was always neutral though

he goes to outlands to fight the horde thats not very neutral.

[greeeed]

People say Cata was pro horde cause of Thrall, we all know that.

MoP pro Horde? it did had a centric horde story (cause they head of the Horde was the villain) and we get to kill him, but i won't call that pro horde.

MoP: Alliance want lore? Read the novel
Alliance in MoP same as the character that defeat Ash in most Pokemon league.
You don't know who the hell they are, but they are the one who defeated him in the league.

Alliance was same in MoP.

[anaxie]

I thought so. Yeah then this wasn't even a loss lol. I'm pretty sure they stated that they didn't want anybody who was important and already dead to "come back to life" via time magic... so that's why Grom won't be here with us either. They're going to either stay on their own planet for a while or ever or died.

circle jerk back pat on people who got the lore wrong.

Maraad was from MU. morons

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And ours get turned into neutral pansy boys or just get killed. That doesn't even bring up crazy ass Jaina that no one wants to deal with or Magni who is a freak of nature that talks to planets.

Neutral you say. I hope one of those references isn't Tirion for the way Alliance treated him because he wasn't a similar bigot.

[Maxilian]

MoP: Alliance want lore? Read the novel
Alliance in MoP same as the character that defeat Ash in most Pokemon league.
You don't know who the hell they are, but they are the one who defeated him in the league.

Alliance was same in MoP.

What did the Horde do? and talk to me about the Horde, not what Garrosh did (that then got completely undone in his raid)

[anaxie]

A legendary veteran warrior like Saurfang is destined to die in battle, and not by getting getting show down by the Legion. When he dies, he will go out in a blaze of glory just like Varian.

What blaze of glory.

Varian went out on his knees

[Taeldorian]

Maraad was already dead in our timeline anyway and Taylor was really unimportant character

Lol what? Why do people who don't know what they're talking about comment on something they don't know?

The maraad that died in WoD was our Maraad. He's literally the one who told Varian to start prepping to head to Draenor and such, we saw a bit of his background each week leading up to WoD or something like that. Not sure where you're pulling that completely wrong info from, but it was our Maraad.

[anaxie]

he goes to outlands to fight the horde thats not very neutral.

oh you mean the old horde with no affiliation to the new horde ayyye?

Maybe Allaince should cry about BIGGER losses. like losing allegience of the Blood Elves because they tried to murder them all not once but twice.

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Lol what? Why do people who don't know what they're talking about comment on something they don't know?

The maraad that died in WoD was our Maraad. He's literally the one who told Varian to start prepping to head to Draenor and such, we saw a bit of his background each week leading up to WoD or something like that. Not sure where you're pulling that completely wrong info from, but it was our Maraad.

because they are lore retards

[Deleted]

Velen is not dead. He is seen in the last page of the comic of Anduin where Anduin himself is many years older than now. It highly implies that wherever we're going at some point is a place where we need Velen and his spaceship. On top of that it looks like he is the right-hand man of Anduin in the future.

[greeeed]

What did the Horde do? and talk to me about the Horde, not what Garrosh did (that then got completely undone in his raid)

Just because he become raid boss it didn't automatically erase everything he done before.
(Including horde players helping with Theramore)

To see the different, just watch Horde and Alliance 5.3 patch quest (which they remove).
And compare which is better ( Horde version a lot better)

Not to mention that Horde don't need to read novel to know what is going own withe their leaders unlike alliance players.


In nether case, it's cycles of:
-Horde players saying alliance invade their capital city
-While alliance saying they are same as person who defeated ash in most league.

We win, but that it.

Just look at Cata twilight introduction quest,
Horde get epic phase shift quest with big fleet,
Alliance get drunk dwarf talking.


Anyway, that change in newer expansion where we can just play the game to know what hell is going on.
(Horde taste our pain in WoD when they need to play as alliance to see Yerl character development)

[Time Sage]

He dies during the Warrior Order Hall campaing, the Orgrimmar achievement where you get him to low health and he pretends that he is dead is a temporary one, probably will become ''legacy'' later.

No, it's just a renamed version of the same achievement you got for killing Garrorosh or Thrall

[Raetary]

Maraad was already dead in our timeline anyway and Taylor was really unimportant character

it was our maraad who went with us to draenor...
there was no AU maraad.

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good its time the horde lose some people the alliance lost maarad and taylor in wod and the horde lost nothing.

this is a joke right?