If Garrosh was at the Broken shores

[Candy Cough]

Do you think it would have been any better for us then?

Garrosh is at full strength, without Old god Heart
He has hired the blackfuse company and brought the entirety of the Kor'kron with him
The bosses from Siege of orgrimmar minus the Pandaria ones and Klaxxi are aiding him
Garrosh is not holding back

Do you think we would have fared better with this bloodthirsty and badass compatant on the field instead of Voljin whom got a lame death?
I'd personally think it would be epic if Garrosh had his own cinematic where he stood alone infront of the Tomb of Sargeras and slaughtered legions upon legions of demons, and later there would just be mountains of demonic corpses that garrosh stood on, while he continues to cleave the endless legions approaching him, in the end I'd still believe he'd lose, just because the burning legion had way more powerful commanders than the horde and alliance

[Gorsameth]

Garrosh would have stayed where sylvanas chose to run.

As a result the entire Horde and Alliance army would have been killed and the Legion would have conquered Azeroth that day.

[Trassk]

Garrosh would have stayed where sylvanas chose to run.

As a result the entire Horde and Alliance army would have been killed and the Legion would have conquered Azeroth that day.

Pretty much. Garrosh would be overwhelmed in minutes, endless demons would flood from gates, and gul'dan would still summon a fel reaver to squash them.

If the "heroes of azeroth" swept through orgrimmar destroying his army, and yet these same heroes had to retreat from the legions forces on broken shore, what chance could you possibly make for garrosh and his army? Even with a mana bomb, it's unlikely to do shit against an endless army of demons.

[Saverem]

Garrosh would have stayed where sylvanas chose to run.

As a result the entire Horde and Alliance army would have been killed and the Legion would have conquered Azeroth that day.

Or maybe he would have shoved his axe up Gul'dan's nose causing the portals to close and Legion to never occur.

[Gorsameth]

Or maybe he would have shoved his axe up Gul'dan's nose causing the portals to close and Legion to never occur.

The portal is already open when the Alliance & Horde get there.
Its why there are enough demons to overwhelm the Horde flank and force the retreat.
Killing Gul'dan does nothing.

Plus as per the scenario he would get his face melted off my the gaze of Sargeras well before be got to Gul'dan in the first place.

[Littlepwny]

If the "heroes of azeroth" swept through orgrimmar destroying his army

You mean, the "Heroes of Azeroth" with the assistance of the entire Alliance and the majority of the Horde had to unite to defeat a General and his limited army. And no, I do not think that his presence would have made a difference.

[My User Name]

Or maybe he would have shoved his axe up Gul'dan's nose causing the portals to close and Legion to never occur.

Are you following the storyline? The portals can be closed only by the Pillars of Creation.

[Saverem]

Are you following the storyline? The portals can be closed only by the Pillars of Creation.

Nope, I came in late to Legion (was out of the country) and am skipping through quests to level up quickly...

[Calfredd]

Won't lie, thought this thread was started by that new character account that acts like British Bulldog except with Garrosh.

[Flurryfang]

Do you think it would have been any better for us then?

Garrosh is at full strength, without Old god Heart
He has hired the blackfuse company and brought the entirety of the Kor'kron with him
The bosses from Siege of orgrimmar minus the Pandaria ones and Klaxxi are aiding him
Garrosh is not holding back

Do you think we would have fared better with this bloodthirsty and badass compatant on the field instead of Voljin whom got a lame death?
I'd personally think it would be epic if Garrosh had his own cinematic where he stood alone infront of the Tomb of Sargeras and slaughtered legions upon legions of demons, and later there would just be mountains of demonic corpses that garrosh stood on, while he continues to cleave the endless legions approaching him, in the end I'd still believe he'd lose, just because the burning legion had way more powerful commanders than the horde and alliance

He would have lost none the less, but he would proberly never have escaped the place. Very few loved him and he would proberly not believe in defeat. He would have stayed and died like Varian.

[MikeBogina]

Depends on Garrosh's 2 failures.

Garrosh after winning SoO, would be weakened badly, but still more powerful than the Horde atm. And would have still lost.

Garrosh with Voljin assassinated properly, would still have the players and the rest of the Horde. They'd have Wrathion and maybe Kairoz helping. The Klaxxi leading a Mantid army. And so much more. Basically Garrosh would have actually brought an army to Broken Shore and i dont mean like 100 npcs, 1000's and so many of them would be powerful AF.

What's really cool about a Garrosh or Arthas succeeding scenario, is that if they won, they would be powerful and grow in power. Everytime the Horde and Alliance win, we never take away from it. We always seem so weak going into the next expansion, like we're barely getting by. Somehow, the 25 heros of both Alliance and Horde are just enough to pull through, while the soldiers and others die and somehow get replenished. SoO and ICC shows that both villains were amassing more power and we barely got their in time.

So yeah, I think Garrosh would have conquered a Mogu Vault, I think he would have enscripted more races into the Horde(they even said they planned for it in the raid) and amassed more powers and weapons before the Legion could have breached Azeroth. Aslong as nothing happened before it, like everyone in the world rallying against him or him falling to Old God corruption.

[Galbrei]

Or maybe he would have shoved his axe up Gul'dan's nose causing the portals to close and Legion to never occur.

He would've tried, maybe even succeeded at killing Gul'dan. That wouldn't close the portal though and he would eventually be overwhelmed along with all the Horde leaders because they would have either died by demon blades next to Garrosh or by his own if they tried to sensibly evacuate like Sylvannas did. The Alliance would probably see the Horde get destroyed and flee in time, maybe Varian would've lived, maybe not, but alone they wouldn't be able to stop the invasions. Kalimdor would be the first to fall, Easter Kingdoms close behind.

[Deleted]

Both Alliance and Horde would be smashed on that day and the leadership of the Horde would fell on the shoulders of Saurfang, Lor'themar and Gallywix.

Azeroth is doomed.

[Stormdash]

Or maybe he would have shoved his axe up Gul'dan's nose causing the portals to close and Legion to never occur.

He could have split Gul'dan's head open any time he wanted to, but the butthurt little worthless fire-staring bastard had to come up with a Brilliant Plan to conquer Azeroth himself.

[Wyrt]

Garrosh would have attacked the Alliance the moment he saw them.

[Highwhale]

I think if there was Garrosh without MoP development (only Cata) he would choose to stay instead of run. But A/H forces still was overwhelmed and call retreat. In last cinematic we could see how Varian and Garrosh covering their forces retreat while making last stand in bromance style. Death of 2 powerful warriors who fight each others whole life but united before BL would rally A+H union and made it more stronger.

[TickTickTick]

Garrosh would have probable sided with legion only to see alliance defeated, lol.

[Leyre]

ah garrosh, the warchief who got his ass handed to him by a bunch of quillboars

[Deleted]

Garrosh would have stayed where sylvanas chose to run.

As a result the entire Horde and Alliance army would have been killed and the Legion would have conquered Azeroth that day.

Garrosh would've kicked their asses.

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ah garrosh, the warchief who got his ass handed to him by a bunch of quillboars

He also orchestrated the death of Mannoroth.

[Leyre]

Garrosh would've kicked their asses.

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He also orchestrated the death of Mannoroth.

ah mannoroth, the pitlord who lost all credibility as a pitlord after being soloed by an orc