Democratic Election 2016 - Hillary Clinton Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Auxora]

If we were talking a race between Clinton and a younger candidate like 45 yo Rubio this might be more of an item. But Trump is 70. I know more people that I worked with that died in their 60s than I can count. He's usually wearing a suit which makes it less noticeable, but if you see pictures of Trump golfing he's definitely a bit overweight. Who's to say he couldn't have a heart attack 1 week into office? She's 68 and was travelling the world as Sec of State, and now is zipping around the country doing nonstop speeches. So imo health is a wash between the two. Trump's doctor is really strange and so his bill of good health didn't hold much water. And as far as vice-presidents if something happens to either of them, Kaine is far more mainstream and rational than Pence.

[Filipse]

Both canidates suck imo, lowest public-approval ratings in an election in American History :P

I -WANT- to say that Trump would be a warmongerer, but given Clinton's past decisions, i cant realy say he is in contrast...

Trump is entertaining though, in a show-gamehost kind of way... THOUGH likely not good for presidental material, though doubt Clinton will be better in the end, American presidents just tend to take bribes and do things for large corporations, and Clinton while being the dirrect image of that, Trump is just heads on crazy but atleast honest about it, i cant realy say to know anything about Hillary's character whatsoever as she just goes where the poll, and sponsors* (*bribers) lead her.

[Venant]

"Everyone"

Yeah no. Most people are rather undeclared either way and there's a reason polls have been slipping further and further this week. Her having a heat related injury isn't "hysterics" but a simple fact that she's exceptionally weak and infirm to fall prey to it so easily. Honestly, I think people who refuse to accept it as a heat injury just haven't really seen what heat stroke actually does to people, or how easy it is for elderly to fall to it. There *could* be other health issues directly causing her addled/feinting behavior, but the "I got overheated" is indictment enough.

We need some Clinton surrogates to go on CNN and push the 'well we don't really care if Hillary Clinton dies' message, see how well that resonates with people who aren't suffering from Trump derangement syndrome.

[JohnBrown1917]

"Everyone"

Yeah no. Most people are rather undeclared either way and there's a reason polls have been slipping further and further this week. Her having a heat related injury isn't "hysterics" but a simple fact that she's exceptionally weak and infirm to fall prey to it so easily. Honestly, I think people who refuse to accept it as a heat injury just haven't really seen what heat stroke actually does to people, or how easy it is for elderly to fall to it. There *could* be other health issues directly causing her addled/feinting behavior, but the "I got overheated" is indictment enough.

But is it really so bad if her VP would then take over?

[Melkandor]

Even assuming those were the conditions at her actual location I've seen people her age suffer under less who were otherwise fine. Aging is a bitch.

Well maybe someone that is aging horribly and is unhealthy shouldn't become President of the most powerful nation on Earth? The DNC fucked themselves over, remember when they were attacking Bernie's health & age? The irony...
Keep the mental gymnastics going Wells it's quite amusing. We're all getting a kick out of Hillary's white-knights in this thread. My candidate is shitty but at least I can admit he's shitty.

[PC2]

Directed at those who use it as argument to vote for Trump.

Some people prefer a leader who can maintain homeostasis in a mild environment.

[Wells]

We need some Clinton surrogates to go on CNN and push the 'well we don't really care if Hillary Clinton dies' message, see how well that resonates with people who aren't suffering from Trump derangement syndrome.

Nothing weird about people who want to vote liberal preferring a Kaine presidency to a Trump one.

[Melkandor]

If we were talking a race between Clinton and a younger candidate like 45 yo Rubio this might be more of an item. But Trump is 70. I know more people that I worked with that died in their 60s than I can count. He's usually wearing a suit which makes it less noticeable, but if you see pictures of Trump golfing he's definitely a bit overweight. Who's to say he couldn't have a heart attack 1 week into office? She's 68 and was travelling the world as Sec of State, and now is zipping around the country doing nonstop speeches. So imo health is a wash between the two. Trump's doctor is really strange and so his bill of good health didn't hold much water. And as far as vice-presidents if something happens to either of them, Kaine is far more mainstream and rational than Pence.

At least Trump isn't going around fainting and getting shoved into vans by Secret Service in 75 degree weather. https://twitter.com/DBloom451/status/775000897604689920 in case you missed the video

[Fasc]

Where'd you go to med school?

Being a first responder in the Army is clearly not enough to understand what heat casualties look like, how they're treated, and how bad it is for them later on. Likewise working with actual 60+ yr olds in a home health facility who are there BECAUSE they had a heat stroke and are now dementia sufferers and will be for the next few years (read: life).

I get you don't want this to be a big deal... but anyone falling out in moderate weather has severe underlining issues that amount to a simple "She's not taking care of herself very well." Is it diet? Is it activity? Is it some onset of a geriatric disease process? All of the above? There are faaaaaar too many yarns to separate here to put a finger on what exactly is going on... but that's entirely unnecessary. Her campaign claims she got "overheated", that's a heat casualty and even if this is the FIRST TIME EVER she's fallen out because of the heat, she's forever susceptible to it again.

You can ignore it all you like, but those are the facts.

[Wells]

Well maybe someone that is aging horribly and is unhealthy shouldn't become President of the most powerful nation on Earth? The DNC fucked themselves over, remember when they were attacking Bernie's health & age? The irony...
Keep the mental gymnastics going Wells it's quite amusing. We're all getting a kick out of Hillary's white-knights in this thread. My candidate is shitty but at least I can admit he's shitty.

Even someone with a medical degree wouldn't engage in this kind of internet diagnostics, and you're even less competent to do so.

[Fasc]

But is it really so bad if her VP would then take over?

It is when we're voting for her, not him. #ImWithHerExceptIfSheDiesThenImWithHim doesn't quite resonant all that well...

[Melkandor]

Being a first responder in the Army is clearly not enough to understand what heat casualties look like, how they're treated, and how bad it is for them later on. Likewise working with actual 60+ yr olds in a home health facility who are there BECAUSE they had a heat stroke and are now dementia sufferers and will be for the next few years (read: life).

I get you don't want this to be a big deal... but anyone falling out in moderate weather has severe underlining issues that amount to a simple "She's not taking care of herself very well." Is it diet? Is it activity? Is it some onset of a geriatric disease process? All of the above? There are faaaaaar too many yarns to separate here to put a finger on what exactly is going on... but that's entirely unnecessary. Her campaign claims she got "overheated", that's a heat casualty and even if this is the FIRST TIME EVER she's fallen out because of the heat, she's forever susceptible to it again.

You can ignore it all you like, but those are the facts.

You can't present facts to someone that ignores them and then does some interesting mental gymnastics.

[Fasc]

We need some Clinton surrogates to go on CNN and push the 'well we don't really care if Hillary Clinton dies' message, see how well that resonates with people who aren't suffering from Trump derangement syndrome.

/snicker

#ImWithHerCorpseOrLive

[Melkandor]

Even someone with a medical degree wouldn't engage in this kind of internet diagnostics, and you're even less competent to do so.

I don't have a medical degree but that doesn't change the fact that Hillary Clinton fainted in 75 degree weather at a 9/11 memorial service.
https://twitter.com/DBloom451/status/775000897604689920
^ In case you missed it with all the mental gymnastics you're doing to be the white-knight to your ailing Queen

[PC2]

Nothing weird about people who want to vote liberal preferring a Kaine presidency to a Trump one.

That's assuming she drops dead. Lurching around for 4 years isn't going to console Kaine supporters.

[Mafic]

Where I live we have 93 degree F weather with over 50% humidity...if Clinton has fainting spells in more milder weather than that is a serious problem.

[JohnBrown1917]

Some people prefer a leader who can maintain homeostasis in a mild environment.

Even if they completely hate his policies, the fuck kind of sense does that make?

[Wells]

I don't have a medical degree but that doesn't change the fact that Hillary Clinton fainted in 75 degree weather at a 9/11 memorial service.
https://twitter.com/DBloom451/status/775000897604689920
^ In case you missed it with all the mental gymnastics you're doing to be the white-knight to your ailing Queen

You don't know that she fainted. You see her stumble. This is exactly the kind of back seat bullshit doctoring I'm talking about.

[Melkandor]

Where I live we have 93 degree F weather with over 50% humidity...if Clinton has fainting spells in more milder weather than that is a serious problem.

Watch out you must draw the attention of the white-knights claiming this is normal for old people.

[Merkava]

You don't know that she fainted. You see her stumble. This is exactly the kind of back seat bullshit doctoring I'm talking about.

Look at her feet in the video. That's a hell of a lot more than a "stumble."