Ah, there's still justice on this world.
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Yes, I read the article. The UN vote is completely pointless and will do nothing. The only way it can ever be enforced and allow all muslims access is to remove the ones that control it and thats not going to happen without a major war. Its not like the muslims that actually live there dont have access anyways or that an "adviser" is going to do shit.
This thread...
UNESCO votes that Jerusalem has also muslim and christian culture connections and should be respected as such (aka, stopping the destruction and renaming of the protected sites) = UN tells Jerusalem is not Jew... Are you guys fucking serious?
Also, mods, close the thread please.
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If you look at the maternal haplogroups, Ashkenazis are indistinguishable from other central Europeans, and Sephardis are indistinguishable from Iberians. Paternal is a bit different, but not very.
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And old sayings are 0/10ths of the law.
Not very relevant, you can have a MENA yDNA or mtDNA and still be genetically East Asian, it's autosomal DNA that matters, and in that particular case both are very different from Spaniards/Germans.
And even in yDNA Sephardis are extremelly different from the Spanish, who have over 60% R1b. Jews barely have any.
Not even the few Belmonte Jews, who remained hidden in North-Central Portugal despite the inquisition until today. The crypto-Jewish population does not have 40% (it's in the 20s, Northern Portugal has around 60%), so I'm pretty sure that information is wrong. Do you have any source for that info?
EDIT: Corrected a few silly typos
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Eupedia has this sort of info (13% R1b in Iberian Sephardis, no idea on the downclades), but I don't know how useful that would be in regards to Sephardis as a whole, most haven't been in Iberia for centuries, Spain has about 50000 Jews, Portugal merely 3000 if I'm not mistaken, with some of them being Ashkenazi who moved during World War 2 to escape the holocaust - the country took thousands of them who wanted to depart to the US.
With that in mind, my guess is that the few currently in Spain/Portugal would have slightly different yDNA statistics than modern Sephardis who were booted to other places like the Netherlands, North Africa, the Americas or the Ottoman Empire, eventhough most still carry originally SW Asian haplogroups (J1, J2 and G).
Still, yDNA doesn't say much about who current Jews are. Hitler was E1b and he was Austrian (although I bet he'd love to know that).