It's Official, Trump's Team Full Contact with Russian Intelligence.

[Edge-]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...nal-wrongdoing

So wait...he did discuss the unannounced sanctions, but because he didn't make any promises and consequently that makes his discussion of that topic not illegal? I'm horribly confused.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

So wait...he did discuss the unannounced sanctions, but because he didn't make any promises and consequently that makes his discussion of that topic not illegal? I'm horribly confused.

I don't know, it just seems that politicians are horribly good at doing ethically incriminating things and getting away with it. Doesn't matter if it's hillary or trump or whomever, it's sad.

[Shadowmelded]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...nal-wrongdoing

Wrong thread. This is about aides talking to Russian Intelligence, not Flynn talking to the Russian Government.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Wrong thread. This is about aides talking to Russian Intelligence, not Flynn talking to the Russian Government.

It's not the same thing?

[Shadowmelded]

It's not the same thing?

Nope. /10ch

[Breccia]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...nal-wrongdoing

A current U.S. intelligence official tells NPR's Mary Louise Kelly that there is no evidence of criminal wrongdoing in the transcripts of former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn's conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, although the official noted that doesn't rule out the possibility of illegal actions.
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Perhaps he'll show this report to the FBI when they question him.

So, assuming this is correct, Trump fired his top advisor for nothing? That's rich.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

A current U.S. intelligence official tells NPR's Mary Louise Kelly that there is no evidence of criminal wrongdoing in the transcripts of former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn's conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, although the official noted that doesn't rule out the possibility of illegal actions.
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Perhaps he'll show this report to the FBI when they question him.

So, assuming this is correct, Trump fired his top advisor for nothing? That's rich.

Didn't he just resign? As far as I know, he wasn't throw out. He made the choice to get out. But don't quote me on that, I have no evidence with me right now. I'm just going at it from what I remember.

[Dawnseven]

Didn't he just resign? As far as I know, he wasn't throw out. He made the choice to get out. But don't quote me on that, I have no evidence with me right now. I'm just going at it from what I remember.

Meh. Depends on who you ask. (These are both Fox for giggles.)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...n-resigns.html

or

http://myfox8.com/2017/02/14/trump-a...loss-of-trust/

[Breccia]

Meh. Depends on who you ask.

Spicer said Trump asked for Flynn's resignation. He said so yesterday. In politics, being asked for your resignation, is being fired.

[May90]

So, Trump in a month managed to get into the biggest presidential scandal in the 241 years of the US existence. Bravo! Had Nixon been still alive, he would be smiling like a child now. "Finally, someone topped me!"

You guys gave your country away in the hands of foreign dictators freely and got an incompetent retarded leader in exchange. Reap what you sow.

[May90]

You must be one of those alternative facts folks. No such thing has occurred, just a bunch of petulant children throwing a tantrum. Give it a few more months and it will quiet down. Pelosi and Schumer can only embarrass themselves so many times before the ratings go too low for outlets to give them screen time.

But keep living in an alternate reality.

I don't need an alternate reality, this one is amusing enough.

[Bodakane]

You must be one of those alternative facts folks. No such thing has occurred, just a bunch of petulant children throwing a tantrum. Give it a few more months and it will quiet down. Pelosi and Schumer can only embarrass themselves so many times before the ratings go too low for outlets to give them screen time.

But keep living in an alternate reality.

Wait, are you Trumpers trying to say the left is the alternate fact people? Really?

[Dawnseven]

Spicer said Trump asked for Flynn's resignation. He said so yesterday. In politics, being asked for your resignation, is being fired.

Yeah I know, and then today Trump is calling Flynn "a wonderful man" who was "treated very very unfairly by the media". Not the kind of thing you say about someone you lost trust in and had to fire.

I don't know anymore. Up is down. Left is right. "Alternative facts" and all that. Honestly, I need Excedrin to come in IV form so I can just have a slow drip all day.

[Belize]

A current U.S. intelligence official tells NPR's Mary Louise Kelly that there is no evidence of criminal wrongdoing in the transcripts of former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn's conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, although the official noted that doesn't rule out the possibility of illegal actions.
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Perhaps he'll show this report to the FBI when they question him.

So, assuming this is correct, Trump fired his top advisor for nothing? That's rich.

Iirc, there's a distinction between *Criminal* and *Illegal*

I know it sounds stupid but I've seen people nitpick the two.

[May90]

American people have always been very big on criticizing the government; every governmental action was studied under a microscope by millions, trying to find anything that would hint at the government not serving its people duly.

It is very strange to see it flipped upside down, with hordes of people defending the administration that, probably, has already gotten into more scandals than all the previous administrations combined. What in the world happened to critical thinking and skepticism?

[Jtbrig7390]

What in the world happened to critical thinking and skepticism?

A decent amount of people no longer gave a fuck as long as there side won.

What they fail to realize is no matter who's side "Won" both sides will lose.

[May90]

A decent amount of people no longer gave a fuck as long as there side won.

What they fail to realize is no matter who's side "Won" both sides will lose.

I mean, even if I was a big Trump supporter, at this point I would say, "Okay, that's it. The guy should step down". I would definitely demand that Hillary stepped down in such a situation. Constant correspondence with Russian Intelligence is the threshold at which all allegiances should become secondary to defending the country from usurpation.

This tribal thinking isn't going to serve the country well long-term...

[Jtbrig7390]

I mean, even if I was a big Trump supporter, at this point I would say, "Okay, that's it. The guy should step down". I would definitely demand that Hillary stepped down in such a situation. Constant correspondence with Russian Intelligence is the threshold at which all allegiances should become secondary to defending the country from usurpation.

This tribal thinking isn't going to serve the country well long-term...

See you are one of the ones who are intelligent and not trying to have a pissing contest. Sadly people like that are in the minority.

Its a fucken shame really, anyone ok with this is not as "American" as they claim to be. Its like watching reddit on live tv/internet.

Its no longer I hope nothing happens, Its what will happen next.

Trump just mite be correct, I bet he could just walk out, Shoot someone in the face and no shits would be given.

[Wells]

Trump is reportedly planning on having a hedge fund manager review US intel services.

Mr. Feinberg’s only experience with national security matters is his firm’s stakes in a private security company and two gun makers.

If he's planning on going after the intell community he's going to have to bring more than this.

[May90]

See you are one of the ones who are intelligent and not trying to have a pissing contest. Sadly people like that are in the minority.

Its a fucken shame really, anyone ok with this is not as "American" as they claim to be. Its like watching reddit on live tv/internet.

Its no longer I hope nothing happens, Its what will happen next.

Trump just mite be correct, I bet he could just walk out, Shoot someone in the face and no shits would be given.

Yes, the problem is not only that his supporters no longer care about his wrongdoings, but his party also keeps letting them slip. Most Republicans seem happy with having the president aligned with them, no matter what he and his administration does - and, since they are in the majority in the government, that essentially makes Trump immune from any legal persecution.

This is a weird system, in which all governmental branches are supposed to be independent from each other, but in reality end up being controlled by the two major parties, and if one party happens to control all of them, then the system becomes essentially authoritarian.