Dutch Voters Divided As Election Signals Another Test For Anti-Immigrant Populism

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Congrats, Netherlands, on your first experience with the removal of kebab. We, Eastern Europe, have been doing it for hundreds of years.

[Woobels]

I think Trump's done enough to destroy the chances of every other national-populist candidate from the First World in the foreseeable future. At least something he is good for.

I'm certainly no fan of nationa-populists but this is naive, Trump definitely made it worse too.

I'd be surprised if Wilders gets any less than the #2 amount of votes, thankfully no one is going to form a coalition with him.

[JohnBrown1917]

They're by far the most incompetent of all parties in the Netherlands, BY FAR! No other party has as much corruption and criminals in their ranks as the VVD. The VVD has failed massively the past seven years, they have done nothing but put incompetent idiots at the wrong positions. Some of these idiots were forcibly replaced because of their continued failings, but most managed to complete their therms. In theory the VVD is the best party because they have the best agenda, in reality they're a party that doesn't do anything but fuck shit up. Just look at their leader Mark Rutte, he is a truly sad individual, nobody internationally even takes this dude serious.

Thats why people you should vote centrist or left wing here.

We really need somebody like Wim Kok or Willem Drees on the left again.

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Good thing Wilders is critical of a religion and not a race of people.

His 'less Moroccans' speech had nothing to do with religion.

[Acidbaron]

Not that the PVV had any chance or ruling regardless of outcome, does seem that he is not becoming the largest party or even the second largest at first results.

Higher turn out than usual what is always good for democratic reasons.

[Theodarzna]

His 'less Moroccans' speech had nothing to do with religion.

Did he say he hated them?

[JohnBrown1917]

Not that the PVV had any chance or ruling regardless of outcome, does seem that he is not becoming the largest party or even the second largest at first results.

Higher turn out than usual what is always good for democratic reasons.

Its probably going to be one of the best winter days in terms of weather this year. so we got lucky.

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Did he say he hated them?

...No? Does that matter?
Singling out a ethnicity is still singling out an ethnicity. He did not even come with a plan for it, and since most new Moroccans are not immigrants(families got reunited decades ago, and the programs where stopped before that)...

[Theodarzna]

...No? Does that matter?
Singling out a ethnicity is still singling out an ethnicity. He did not even come with a plan for it, and since most new Moroccans are not immigrants(families got reunited decades ago, and the programs where stopped before that)...

It does in the sense that the inverse of "I wish there were less Dutch people here," said in the context of speaking about the ethnic homeland of the Dutch would seem strange. Few would say to the Japanese "THATS RACIST!" for saying "You know we want this country to be more Japanese."

[Acidbaron]

Did he say he hated them?

He promotes that sentiment of division, he did not need to literally say how much he dislikes them.

Anyway regardless of his believes wilders and the PVV remains a pretty much terrible party due to it's structure and plans or better yet lack thereof of both.

[Moratori]

It does in the sense that the inverse of "I wish there were less Dutch people here," said in the context of speaking about the ethnic homeland of the Dutch would seem strange. Few would say to the Japanese "THATS RACIST!" for saying "You know we want this country to be more Japanese."

Few? What? No, the japanese are pretty racist.

[MCMLXXXII]

The majority of his adherents would rather see Pechtold as Prime Minister. I doubt it would seriously happen.

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"Every party hired a place to follow the results, except Geert Wilders because he has no money."

Chuckled a bit when I heard this.

It is kinda funny, but the real reason is he has to pay for his own protection when he hires a place. He is protected where ever he goes but as soons as he goes inside a building he has to pay for it himself.

[JohnBrown1917]

It does in the sense that the inverse of "I wish there were less Dutch people here," said in the context of speaking about the ethnic homeland of the Dutch would seem strange. Few would say to the Japanese "THATS RACIST!" for saying "You know we want this country to be more Japanese."

Not sure what your getting at.. He attacks certain ethnic groups, so he does limit himself to religion

[Slybak]

I respect Wilders, especially is balls of steal when speaking about Islam when most European politicians are cowards or delusional.

I must say, watching you make the ever-so-subtle transformation from an obtuse crypto-reactionary to an obtuse overt reactionary has been the most surprising plot twist that I've seen since the sun came up this morning.

[DJ117]

I hope he wins. Take back Europe!

[alexw]

I must say, watching you make the ever-so-subtle transformation from an obtuse crypto-reactionary to an obtuse overt reactionary has been the most surprising plot twist that I've seen since the sun came up this morning.

Theodarzna is a member of the far-right alt-reich pretending to be a disenchanted liberal, because attacks on the left from the inside do more damage that way. It took me quite a while to realize all this as he/she plays the part oh so well, but every so often Theo makes comments like this one where his/her support for modern day fascism becomes obvious.

[DrMcNinja]

I hope he wins. Take back Europe!

#How? /10char

[Theodarzna]

Few? What? No, the japanese are pretty racist.

The same argument could be said of Zimbabwe and South Africa.

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He promotes that sentiment of division, he did not need to literally say how much he dislikes them.

Anyway regardless of his believes wilders and the PVV remains a pretty much terrible party due to it's structure and plans or better yet lack thereof of both.

Their unwillingness to become Dutch doesn't promote division?

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He promotes that sentiment of division, he did not need to literally say how much he dislikes them.

Anyway regardless of his believes wilders and the PVV remains a pretty much terrible party due to it's structure and plans or better yet lack thereof of both.

Their unwillingness to become Dutch doesn't promote division?

[Acidbaron]

Their unwillingness to become Dutch doesn't promote division?

The problem of them immigrating is a problem where both sides are to blame, not just one. Wilders is what i define as the "dumb right" they make it so the right can't start up a good dialogue around migration due to constant provocation but that's what those parties are all words no context.

[minteK917]

lmao there is no test. Netherland use a coalition system. Nobody is gona form a coalition with him. The conservative will win and form a coalition with the socialist again. USA political problem is its own shit.

[Noradin]

The same argument could be said of Zimbabwe and South Africa.

What has that got to do with anything?

[Cairhiin]

Exit polls show VVD is by far biggest party.

EDIT: projected seats... VVD: 31 - PVV, CDA, D66: 19