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    Quote Originally Posted by telygroar View Post
    Youre looking at the face shes trying to make to appeal right wing more moderate electors. Her vice-president do the "real" talk just after she speak almost every time. Beside if you know the history of the party, and not only le pen, its an actual clusterfuck of different right wing to ultra right wing (and ultra ultra right wing too) .
    Former party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulslaver View Post
    I am amused, not triggered. Or you can say you triggered my amusement.
    I'm not even a socialist lol, but keep on dodging when somebody proves you wrong, its funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulslaver View Post
    Former party.
    You really believe that?

  3. #243
    While the far right rise is getting all the attention, the far left is slowing coming back and their candidate almost reached Le Pen, i'm curious if some german poster could tell me if Die Linke has some chances in the future election.
    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    Obviously this issue doesn't affect me however unlike some raiders I don't see the point in taking satisfaction in this injustice, it's wrong, just because it doesn't hurt me doesn't stop it being wrong, the player base should stand together when Blizzard do stupid shit like this not laugh at the ones being victimised.

  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Neither of them are left wing.
    For FAILoZOFF the current Polish government is left wing, so I guess anything left of them in general is "left wing". Chances are, he's a voter for this genius.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pendra View Post
    It definitely does seem like she is trying to build up a more "neutral" image now that she got into the second round, probably in an attempt to distance herself from the image of the FN and to cater to people that would not vote for the FN.
    That said, it seems like such a weird move. Does she expect people to suddenly forget where she comes from politically? Does she expect people to believe that she is suddenly a different person?
    Well, there is some truth to what she's saying (though maybe not in a semi-presidential country like France, I'm not sure). The president should be above partisan considerations and should be the representative of the entire nation, not just one party. That's more government's (as in the executive cabinet led by the prime minister) thing. But that's theory. In practice it's just an empty gesture made by slimy politician. Same thing happened in Poland. The president resigned from the party (albeit after already being elected) because he's a "president of all Polish people and not just PiS voters" or some shit like that. In practice, he's merely a puppet of the ruling party. Though, again, this whole thing may not apply to France given how the role of the president there is stronger than in rest of EU countries.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Again, Macron is a ultra-liberal, he more right-wing than any thing.
    You ignored the main point though. The guberment is out to get you!
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    I'm quite tired of people who dislike something/disagree with something while attacking/insulting anyone that disagrees. Its as if at some point, people forgot how opinions work.

  5. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulslaver View Post
    Former party.
    She didn't left the party, she stepped down from the leadership.

  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulslaver View Post
    Had Austrias Hofer distanced himself from the FPOE, his chances definitely would have risen.
    Had they? Possibly. But definitely not if he had done it between the first and second round of the same presidential election.

    And even if he had done it before the first round, maybe even before the campaigning - it is still likely that people would have associated him with the FPÖ to a large extent. Look at his rival back then, Van der Bellen. He did go into the campaigning as an independent candidate for this very reason - to try and position himself more neutrally and away from party politics. Did it work? Not exactly, he was still widely regarded as the "Green party candidate".

  7. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    For FAILoZOFF the current Polish government is left wing.
    Like lol? of course it is, they are f socialists (even with bit of commie flavors) for f sake
    In practice, he's merely a puppet of the ruling party.
    Of course, but at last we know his masters name... unlike before, so some progress? I guess...
    president of all Polish people and not just PiS voters
    You are delusional if you think ANY of previous presidents was "everyone's" president. Besides president is quite meaningless and powerless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAILoZOFF View Post
    Like lol? of course it is, they are f socialists (even with bit of commie flavors) for f sake
    It's almost as if political alignment was multifaceted and PiS was universally viewed as right wing due to the sum of their platform. Woo, they have social programs for the poor. It's almost as if right wing socialism was a thing (not really applicable here, but a general point) and that one of the earliest proponents of welfare were christian democrats. Whoah.


    Quote Originally Posted by FAILoZOFF View Post
    Of course, but at last we know his masters name... unlike before, so some progress? I guess...
    When was this "before" exactly?


    Quote Originally Posted by FAILoZOFF View Post
    You are delusional if you think ANY of previous presidents was "everyone's" president. Besides president is quite meaningless and powerless.
    Look at all the times I said that. Oh, right, that's zero.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    I'm quite tired of people who dislike something/disagree with something while attacking/insulting anyone that disagrees. Its as if at some point, people forgot how opinions work.

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