Sex on the First Date?

[Tehshocka]

I do have self respect for myself which is why I am not going to sleep with every single person that might want to just because they can't wait until we know each other. If someone can't wait until we actually know and really like each other then that is their issue not mine.

So glad I am married and don't have to deal with most guys and their inability to control themselves and not act like if they don't have sex on the first date there is something wrong with someone.

Not to be a jerk in anyway,

Happy you found a wife. However, because you are married, you have like zero input on this lol.

[Tiravi]

I do have self respect for myself which is why I am not going to sleep with every single person that might want to just because they can't wait until we know each other. If someone can't wait until we actually know and really like each other then that is their issue not mine.

So glad I am married and don't have to deal with most guys and their inability to control themselves and not act like if they don't have sex on the first date there is something wrong with someone.

Just read this thread and got to your post at the end - totally agree. My main though is 'thank god I've been in a serious relationship for the last 13 years.'

'All women want to be dominated by men' - speaking as one member of the population that makes up 'all women', you are actually, factually wrong.
'No sex on the first date = waste of time?' - Really?

My fella will be glad I read this thread because suddenly I appreciate him even more.

[Livnthedream]

I'm a bit old, but they tell me there is this thing called social media where people post pictures, often pictures of people they know "the Book Home Facelift" I think the ad spammer called it. It gets even more shocking than that, thousands of people see us if we're out in public and I know almost none of them. In the old days, I might have even had her picture on my desk! Lad, she has studio wedding pictures of us as a couple for the cover of her home page.

Yeah, but how much did you pay?

[Tehshocka]

Just read this thread and got to your post at the end - totally agree. My main though is 'thank god I've been in a serious relationship for the last 13 years.'

'All women want to be dominated by men' - speaking as one member of the population that makes up 'all women', you are actually, factually wrong.
'No sex on the first date = waste of time?' - Really?

My fella will be glad I read this thread because suddenly I appreciate him even more.

You care to show these supposed facts of yours?

Because using my anecdotal experiences, you are wrong.

[shadowmouse]

Yeah, but how much did you pay?

We'll be paying a token bride price to her mother that will range between 10K-20K RMB. Bride price is a thing here and it has soared since the 2013 study. She's bringing her own business and apartment into the deal. With the way things are going, 250K and up would have been normal.

That is 100% the same.

Same.

You're trying to justify stereotypes while disregarding the changes in societies over the last 100 years. The US didn't even grant women the vote until the early 20th century, changes in Asia have been at least as sweeping. You ignore time when it suits you, but think that the same logic shouldn't apply to you. No, but when we apply it to you it is clear how asinine your assumption is.

You've also tried to clean up your language in your latest post, inserting qualifiers that weren't in your original: "might still apply to some extent today because they were so ingrained" isn't "that's the way it used to be. And if it used to be that way, then there are still remnants of it today." You clearly wrote "are" and not "might".

[Deleted]

You've also tried to clean up your language in your latest post, inserting qualifiers that weren't in your original: "might still apply to some extent today because they were so ingrained" isn't "that's the way it used to be. And if it used to be that way, then there are still remnants of it today." You clearly wrote "are" and not "might".

That's unnecessarily nit-picky and really means nothing.

[ls-]

It depends.

Sometimes the first date goes so well that everything happens naturally.

[shadowmouse]

That's unnecessarily nit-picky and really means nothing.

Sure thing Mr. Trump. We understand, listen to what you said you meant not what you said. Sheesh, it's contagious.

[Seirith]

Not to be a jerk in anyway,

Happy you found a wife. However, because you are married, you have like zero input on this lol.

I found a husband, I'm female.

Also, why do I have zero input? Just because I am married does not mean I am not allowed to have opinions and preferences.

[Tehshocka]

I found a husband, I'm female.

Also, why do I have zero input? Just because I am married does not mean I am not allowed to have opinions and preferences.

Apologies for the assumed gender.

The reason I say that is if you have been married for more than ~5 years +, the social climate of dating has drastically changed. You for the most part have been insulated by your marriage bubble. Therefore, it would be hard to take what you have to say on mostly a single person issue (unless you are in an open marriage) seriously.

[Seirith]

Apologies for the assumed gender.

The reason I say that is if you have been married for more than ~5 years +, the social climate of dating has drastically changed. You for the most part have been insulated by your marriage bubble. Therefore, it would be hard to take what you have to say on mostly a single person issue (unless you are in an open marriage) seriously.

It's ok, my name doesn't give away the fact I'm female. Most people think I'm a guy, so no biggie!

I have been married for 11 years actually and while dating changes all the time, I know myself. I know who I am and if I were single tomorrow for whatever reason and got to the point I was ready to date, I know how I would act because it is part of the person I am. I am not against one night stands or sex on the first date, but it is not something I personally would do. If someone is not ok with that, they are not someone I would want to date. For me personally, I want to know someone before I get in bed with them and by the 1st, 2nd or 3rd date I barely know them.

[ro9ue]

What the hells a date?

[Deleted]

Sure thing Mr. Trump. We understand, listen to what you said you meant not what you said. Sheesh, it's contagious.

Reality is all women like to be dominated by men. Asian women most likely more than others. I don't have that many experiences with Asian girls, but others have and that's how stereotypes start.

https://tomtorero.com/2017/08/18/bel...-belt-part-17/

It had been a fast, throwaway number close with her on the street because of the typical Japanese daygame problems. The date was very awkward too as she didn’t drink alcohol and we’d met early evening in Starbucks. Quickly she told me she was engaged to be married and that she lived with her fiancé. Again there was really no English, and the wifi in the coffee shop was down so we resorted to communicating through drawing pictures in a notebook (I’d yet to learn that you can download Google Translate packages to use offline). Just for the heck of it I invited her back to watch a movie and to my amazement she agreed. Back in the small rented apartment across the street we sat on the bed, listened to music and I started escalating. The usual token LMR reared its head and she wouldn’t go beyond cuddling and very small kisses.

Plan B – I put on a hypnotically beautiful documentary about a landscape photographer in South America (chosen because it had very little dialogue). The images were dreamy and the music relaxing – it was doing a lot of the LMR-busting for me. I slowly realised that she was enjoying the cat-and-mouse dance of me pulling the trigger and her playfully pushing me away. She made small simpering noises as I kissed her neck, her ear and then got really into it as we made out. Japanese girls seem to especially love the fantasy of “submitting” to a dominant man as she play-acted being coy and surprised. Soon we were fucking like rabbits – on the bed, on the floor, on the balcony looking out onto the neon streets below. I was so horny I shot my load inside her so we had to go to an emergency pharmacy for the Morning-After Pill.

[shadowmouse]

Reality is all women like to be dominated by men.

Reality is that you are citing a "daygamer". This is a guy who makes his living off of marketing an image and writing what amounts to soft-core porn. There is truth, and there is marketing. If marketing were absolutely true, McDonald's would serve great hamburgers. In the case of this guy, a quick check on a search engine shows he is apparently known to have hired an actress for at least one of his videos. I'd take him with a grain of salt, say enough to cover at least one winter's road use in Russia.

There is such a thing as selection bias though. I suppose your view may get reinforced because those who aren't willing to play along deal themselves out.

[Deleted]

Reality is that you are citing a "daygamer". This is a guy who makes his living off of marketing an image and writing what amounts to soft-core porn. There is truth, and there is marketing. If marketing were absolutely true, McDonald's would serve great hamburgers. In the case of this guy, a quick check on a search engine shows he is apparently known to have hired an actress for at least one of his videos. I'd take him with a grain of salt, say enough to cover at least one winter's road use in Russia.

There is such a thing as selection bias though. I suppose your view may get reinforced because those who aren't willing to play along deal themselves out.

I do daygame as well. I know it works.

[Freighter]

I do daygame as well. I know it works.

By your own admission you haven't even gotten anyone in bed but 2 prostitutes though. So, how is that working out?

[Deleted]

By your own admission you haven't even gotten anyone in bed but 2 prostitutes though. So, how is that working out?

I've been on a date and I'm regularly kissing girls on the cheeks.

[Freighter]

I've been on a date and I'm regularly kissing girls on the cheeks.

That means it works? Isn't the purpose of it to get to have sex?

[Deleted]

That means it works? Isn't the purpose of it to get to have sex?

I've only been doing it for almost 3 months now. It takes time. I see improvements every day.

[Karlz0rz]

Can I just say that I find it incredibly adorable that Anduin thinks his penis is better than a vibrator at getting a girl to reach orgasm?