Is saying "all right wingers are fascists" the same as "all muslims are terrorists"?

[Lochton]

Is saying "all right wingers are fascists" the same as "all muslims are terrorists"? Both are wrong generalisations. However it seems to appear the first one is never frowned upon, and the latter one is. Especially on these forums.

How is that? Isn't is a tiny bit hypocritical to call all right wingers fascist because they generalise, while at the same time your doing the exact same thing? How is it different from the right wingers saying that all muslims are terrorists or all mexicans are criminals and rapists?

Pretty much yes, which makes it even more sad.

[ParanoiD84]

I would say so yeah.

[chrisnumbers]

Yes it's exactly the same thing.
If one person does something you don't like, the others who look or talk like them aren't all going to be doing the same thing.

[Chrysia]

Antifa?

And very nearly everyone thinks Antifa are shitstains. Antifa don't limit themselves to the American right wing, either.

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It has a little inspiration, true, as well as other more palatable influences. I still like the film though, albeit that is sci-fi fantasy, the reality is not so enjoyable. As much as I hate Islam (not Muslim's) it's still a fascinating religion, I've done my research unlike most.

I confess I was probably wrong about Fascism, I'm much more knowledgeable about religion and the spiritual tbh, so sorry for my pride. I think the current left is increasingly fascist though, all the signs are there.

Lastly I was infracted for speaking badly about a totalitarian ideology that is only 30% religion (aka Islam) and also for "nonsense conspiracies", I hate conspiracy theories but a few are actually true. Like the left/socialist take over of the west for example, another is the increasingly successful attempt of Islam to infilitrate and slowly take over the west enabled by the useful idiots on the left.

I could also go into the ultimate conspiracy of all, which is Satan and his dominion but I suspect this is the wrong place for that, it's a shame because you'd think people that play a high fantasy mmo like WoW would perhaps be at least a little open to the reality of the supernatural, maybe it has the opposite effect and causes people to think it's only fantasy, one trip to certain parts of Africa would quickly destroy that line of thinking.

No, aspects of the left are increasingly authoritarian, not fascist. Fascism is necessarily nationalistic.

[Muadiib]

And very nearly everyone thinks Antifa are shitstains. Antifa don't limit themselves to the American right wing, either.

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No, aspects of the left are increasingly authoritarian, not fascist. Fascism is necessarily nationalistic.

More so I mean their shutting down of free speech, basically everything that doesn't align with their views and agenda. Is that not fascist? Genuine question.

[Chrysia]

More so I mean their shutting down of free speech, basically everything that doesn't align with their views and agenda. Is that not fascist? Genuine question.

No, that's authoritarian. Fascism is specifically nationalistic authoritarianism, and the left is inherently anti-nationalistic.

[Zecora]

More so I mean their shutting down of free speech, basically everything that doesn't align with their views and agenda. Is that not fascist? Genuine question.

No. It is something you find in Fascism, but it is not exclusive to Fascism. You find it in Authoritarians of all shades, from right to middle to leftwing.

[Deleted]

More so I mean their shutting down of free speech, basically everything that doesn't align with their views and agenda. Is that not fascist? Genuine question.

In acual fact, no.
However, Fascism is often used as a shorthand for authoritarian political violent fucks.

[Daedius]

Leftists don't like being pointed out to their double standards and hypocrisy.

[Tico]

It is the same inappropriate simplification.

[Grapemask]

I don't know if I've heard anyone say all right wingers are fascists. I've heard them say it about the alt-right, though. At least in that context you're getting closer to a correct gross simplification.

But regarding why one would be frowned upon and the attempt at "wah poor me," I mean, you're essentially equating first world problems to third world problems. "Is saying all purple people make mean faces the same as saying all green people kill everyone?"

No shit, the second one is frowned upon more than the first. It turns out the response to the second has shittier consequences.

[Chrysia]

Leftists don't like being pointed out to their double standards and hypocrisy.

Who are the "Leftists" and how often do they call the entire American right wing fascists?

[PosPosPos]

I don't know if I've heard anyone say all right wingers are fascists. I've heard them say it about the alt-right, though. At least in that context you're getting closer to a correct gross simplification.

But regarding why one would be frowned upon and the attempt at "wah poor me," I mean, you're essentially equating first world problems to third world problems. "Is saying all purple people make mean faces the same as saying all green people kill everyone?"

No shit, the second one is frowned upon more than the first. It turns out the response to the second has shittier consequences.

Alt-right is just an alternative naming for fascists.

Fascists is a label that is highly frowned upon in this day and age, much like communists, so the fascists themselves need to create a new label to make themselves sound better.

It's like if one day all the mass murderers in the world came up with a new name to call themselves fluffy-bunny-kittens-puppies-lovers.

[Daedius]

Who are the "Leftists" and how often do they call the entire American right wing fascists?

There are plenty here on these forums alone that use the blanket term "you" in reference to right wingers, associating them with fascists...

[Chrysia]

There are plenty here on these forums alone that use the blanket term "you" in reference to right wingers, associating them with fascists...

There's like 4, and they're widely regarded as insane.

[Vyxn]

Not exactly.

Right wingers aren't fascists at all, a fascist requires right wing + authoritarian. But there is a prerequestite.

Muslims on the other hand just 'happen' to be the most common terrorist today (used to be Protestants 50 years ago) - But there is NO prerequisite.

Definition of fascism
1
often capitalized :* a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

centralized government? severe economic regimentation? does that sound right wing to you? that sounds more like Socialism like having the word socialist in the National Socialist Workers Party

[Chrysia]

Definition of fascism
1
often capitalized :* a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

centralized government? severe economic regimentation? does that sound right wing to you? that sounds more like Socialism like having the word socialist in the National Socialist Workers Party

You're literally arguing against 100 years of political theory here. Fascism is right-wing. Right-wing doesn't mean small government, no matter how much you'd like it to. Right-wing has meant a lot of things over a long period of time, but the one thing that it has been consistent about is social conservatism. Fascism is, by definition, socially conservative.

[Zecora]

There are plenty here on these forums alone that use the blanket term "you" in reference to right wingers, associating them with fascists...

Oh, yeah, of course "you" can't POSSIBLY be in reference to 'YOU', or to 'people like YOU', it HAS to be in reference to ALL right-wingers.

Does anyone have a pic of a quadruple facepalm? I think it's merited in this case.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

That's actually an accurate observation.

[Chrysia]

That's actually an accurate observation.

Or, it would be if you could cite any high profile person claiming the entirety of the right-wing is fascists.