AdBlock - Why It's Wrong

[Yarathir]

Let's stop being ignorant for a moment and stop forgetting that the entire Internet is made by people working full-time, most of which is paid by ads.

Then they should stop allowing ads that contains viruses in them. They dug their own grave. It's just the necessary reaction that should've been given long ago. Now perhaps they can work on providing proper advertisements. Not the obnoxious, virus-ridden flashy ones.



I would not pay someone for giving me an STD in real life either. And no, prostitution is not paying someone for giving you an STD.

[Sliske]

You literally have no argument besides "suck it up". Do you understand why my opinion is so low of people like you?

Do i have to have an argument to tell you to suck it up?

I could not care any less Vizzle. My AdBlock will continue to piss you off for very little reason and i will continue to adventure through the internet without pop ups.

[vizzle]

Also, fuck cracked.

"Top 7 animals that look like candy" ?

Aww, so bummed that as got blocked. What a valuable contribution to society it was.

I don't care if you like the site or not. But don't tell me there aren't sites that you do like, that you frequent often. Whatever those sites are, you're just hurting them. It's being an ingrate.

[Whidbey]

i have three words for you: MALWARE/VIRUSES/TROJANS. until companies vet their ads better adblock shall remain.

That and page redirects, pop unders, and porn pages popping up from pg sites. I go to websites to avoid the crappy ads on TV as well. WTH would I want to see a infomercial on my browser. You know what, when websites stop allowing garbage and harmful ads.. I'll then remove my adblock, until then, they get my donations.

[LCDArcade]

Let's stop being ignorant for a moment and stop forgetting that the entire Internet is made by people working full-time, most of which is paid by ads.

At least someone gets it. Almost everything that people do now a days is supported by ads. Television, websites, videos, bilboards, raido, newspapers, magazines...need I go on. Without ads the world practically wouldn't exist.

Also lets set the record straight about streaming not being a job...because it is. If you make a full time salary streaming then that is your job not to mention the fact its something you love to do and can make a living off of. Telling someone to get a real job like working at McDoanlds is just plain ignorant.

[vizzle]

Do i have to have an argument to tell you to suck it up?

I could not care any less Vizzle. My AdBlock will continue to piss you off for very little reason and i will continue to adventure through the internet without pop ups.

No, you don't have to. But if you had a respectable one you'd be less of a leech on society.

But again, you don't have to care, and I agree with that. Carry on.

[Sliske]

Also, fuck cracked.

"Top 7 animals that look like candy" ?

Aww, so bummed that as got blocked. What a valuable contribution to society it was.

Watch out or you'll end up on "top 5 posts i hate"

[vizzle]

Then they should stop allowing ads that contains viruses in them. They dug their own grave. It's just the necessary reaction that should've been given long ago. Now perhaps they can work on providing proper advertisements. Not the obnoxious, virus-ridden flashy ones.



I would not pay someone for giving me an STD in real life either. And no, prostitution is not paying someone for giving you an STD.

They don't do it on purpose. If you look at MMO-C's report section you'd see a giant thread dedicated to fishing out the bad ads, which they can't stop from sneaking in.

And comparing a virus to a STD is pathetic.

[Foosha]

To go against Adblock is to go against capitalism entirely. Which is counterproductive for MAH WEBSITE! Adblock recognized a need/service for annoying and intrusive ads, and this is a primary attribute to capitalism...service and attend the needs of the consumer. I understand the websites need to make money, but why do they hinge all of their money making efforts on a third party ad service? Find a better way, advertise internally, offer a service, make someone NEED what you offer.

[Sliske]

No, you don't have to. But if you had a respectable one you'd be less of a leech on society.

But again, you don't have to care, and I agree with that. Carry on.

Leech on society? Again, give me a fucking break. Sorry sir for not clicking on your mcdonalds ad on cracked.com or whatever. I'm sure it would help you loads to be able to buy noodles to sustain yourself by doing nothing but posting mildy interesting, two page "top 5" crap for $5 and spending the rest of your time telling people they're horrible on MMO-C.

[Coar]

Without ads the world practically wouldn't exist.

What are you even talking about

When you say "at least someone else gets it"

There's a reason no one else gets it, it's because it's stupid, ads are stupid. You're not the 1% of this forum that magically understands something, you're just being greedy and want money.

[Yarathir]

They don't do it on purpose. If you look at MMO-C's report section you'd see a giant thread dedicated to fishing out the bad ads, which they can't stop from sneaking in.

And comparing a virus to a STD is pathetic.

No, you justifying giving people viruses that could potentially kill their computer is pathetic. You know what destroying a computer internally with a virus does to a normal family? Deprive them from 500-800 euros. And you're a leech for not wanting to allow that because it means you are mean to the ones who live off of making internet entertainment? Get a grip.



And stop thinking your "speech of justice" is objective. If it was, you'd be a leech on society just the same, if only in another manner. Like you are the perfect exemplar of a human being. Give me a break. You seem more like a pretentious know-it-all than anything at this moment.



And the long years of sites doing nothing to stop the virus infestation in their ads caused distress when not using adblock. Lack of safety. It created a stigma, and they need to deal with it now. Besides, many more sites do nothing to change it. There may be a few good apples, but the bad bunch are ruining it.


Yes, it's not people's fault for wanting to avoid all that. Blame the bad apples among the sites using advertisement for creating and upholding that stigma.

[Whidbey]

I run a weekly podcast, do you know who pays to put it up for my server's community?? me, not a damn cent goes into my pocket. It's ad free, we do not ask for donations, and we do it because we can. Streamers can't make money off their streams due to adblocking.. Too bad, pay for it out of pocket like some of us do, because it's not a career , its service to the community and sharing.

[vizzle]

Leech on society? Again, give me a fucking break. Sorry sir for not clicking on your mcdonalds ad on cracked.com or whatever. I'm sure it would help you loads to be able to buy noodles to sustain yourself by doing nothing but posting mildy interesting, two page "top 5" crap for $5 and spending the rest of your time telling people they're horrible on MMO-C.

*You don't have to click on ads for it to generate revenue
*There is a lot more money going around the Internet than noodle-buying money. For some reason whenever it comes to the Internet everyone thinks it's a joke, but hey, that's your loss.
*You can continue to try to ad-hominem me all you want, I don't really have much of an opinion on you so I hope you realize that I don't really care. I don't have to and won't explain what I do to you.

You still haven't given me a single argument why depriving people of their careers because you don't know how to update your virus protection or because you can't stop yourself from visiting malware-ridden porn blogs isn't being a horrible person.

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I run a weekly podcast, do you know who pays to put it up for my server's community?? me, not a damn cent goes into my pocket. It's ad free, we do not ask for donations, and we do it because we can. Streamers can't make money off their streams due to adblocking.. Too bad, pay for it out of pocket like some of us do, because it's not a career , its service to the community and sharing.

A weekly podcast. Yep, that's the pinnacle of production. You don't ask for donations because I doubt you could accumulate it. Jesus man, don't compare a lemonade stand to a giant conglomerate.

[Wondercrab]

It's a really unfortunate situation with adblock. I really, really wish I didn't have to use it, but the threat of malware delivered via ads isn't something I feel like I can justify putting up with any longer.

The only place I don't use adblock is youtube, because I really do feel bad about taking revenue away from the people who provide me hours of entertainment for free on a daily basis. I like to help out the little guys, but for larger sites I don't think it's worth the risk.

Other places I try to support by buying merchandise, subscribing to services etc. whenever I can.

It's disappointing to see so many people rallying against ads because "they're annoying", though. Enduring them is a small price to pay for the wealth of content we have access to via the internet. It's incredibly selfish to think that we're entitled to most of the web's entertainment without giving a thing back.

[Nelaphim-EX]

For the longest time, I would allow advertisements past AdBlock if the streamer/site was one that I frequented and wanted to 'support', but recently, I have encountered way too many ads that are significantly louder than the stream/video that I am watching, to the point that they are uncomfortable. Because of this, I have stopped viewing advertisements once again. Sorry =/

[Yarathir]

*You don't have to click on ads for it to generate revenue
*There is a lot more money going around the Internet than noodle-buying money. For some reason whenever it comes to the Internet everyone thinks it's a joke, but hey, that's your loss.
*You can continue to try to ad-hominem me all you want, I don't really have much of an opinion on you so I hope you realize that I don't really care. I don't have to and won't explain what I do to you.

You still haven't given me a single argument why depriving people of their careers because you don't know how to update your virus protection or because you can't stop yourself from visiting malware-ridden porn blogs isn't being a horrible person.

He doesn't need an argument because you don't get to judge people objectively and tell them they are a horrible person. All you can do is think they are for it. You and the others chose a shitty and unstable career. It's the internet. What did you expect? People take shortcuts, people make things easier for themselves. If anything, you should adapt to people using the internet as they wish and try to make money out of the adaptation instead of sitting there in a corner, crying about how all the bad people using AdBlock are depriving you of your well-earned money.


Better yet, get a real job and start doing the things you do now as a hobby, like most people do.

[vizzle]

No, you justifying giving people viruses that could potentially kill their computer is pathetic. You know what destroying a computer internally with a virus does to a normal family? Deprive them from 500-800 euros. And you're a leech for not wanting to allow that because it means you are mean to the ones who live off of making internet entertainment? Get a grip.

Exaggeration. I wonder why my computers haven't all exploded yet and all my accounts have been hacked. Huh.

And stop thinking your "speech of justice" is objective. If it was, you'd be a leech on society just the same, if only in another manner. Like you are the perfect exemplar of a human being. Give me a break. You seem more like a pretentious know-it-all than anything at this moment.

Why? Tell me why, instead of telling me I am. Because of your exaggerations?

And the long years of sites doing nothing to stop the virus infestation in their ads caused distress when not using adblock. Lack of safety. It created a stigma, and they need to deal with it now. Besides, many more sites do nothing to change it. There may be a few good apples, but the bad bunch are ruining it.

Yes, it's not people's fault for wanting to avoid all that. Blame the bad apples among the sites using advertisement for creating and upholding that stigma.

Again, they don't do nothing. Ads are reported all of the time.

[Clockworks]

I hate adds and shall never click one, and thats why AdBlock is here to stay, combined with NoScript.

If i want something i don't need a annoying ad in my face thats 99.99999% inrelevant anyway.
Google is you friend when you want something, not an ad.

As for the making cash part, if a page is decent and i have a use of it i can donate to help out if the site is ad free. ads there? say goodbye to donations.

[darkwarrior42]

At least someone gets it. Almost everything that people do now a days is supported by ads. Television, websites, videos, bilboards, raido, newspapers, magazines...need I go on. Without ads the world practically wouldn't exist.

Also lets set the record straight about streaming not being a job...because it is. If you make a full time salary streaming then that is your job not to mention the fact its something you love to do and can make a living off of. Telling someone to get a real job like working at McDoanlds is just plain ignorant.

And until ad services stop creating ads that:
1) Play sounds/music
2) Flash obnoxiously
3) Cause the web page to continuously reload, sucking up bandwidth and affecting other programs
4) Serve as vectors for viruses

I'm not going to globally allow ads. I run adblock, then disable it for sites I visit on a regular basis.... and re-enable it if those sites regularly display annoying ads. (By regularly, I mean more than once or twice. Most web sites have a way for you to report problematic ads, but if I have to constantly report ads I'm just blocking them). As a result, most sites I visit on a regular basis get nice regular revenue off of me.... though ironically, MMO and Wowhead are the two big exceptions.

Your argument is that our convenience damages them, so we should stop blocking ads. I acknowledge the damage, and on sites where they're easily ignored I'll go with that. But I'm not letting ads eat up bandwidth unnecessarily or potentially attack my system, or trick me into "clicking" them (as is the case with some banners that will trigger on mouseover, rather than on click) just so that sites who can't keep these ads out don't suffer.

If the end result is that websites shut down... well, that's bad for the advertisers too, so they have added incentive not to piss us off too much, don't they?