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    GG : The integration of refugees affirms Canada as a caring society

    The great opportunity we have in taking on the challenge of integrating new Canadians is simply this: It’s a chance to revisit and renew our commitment to being a smart, caring and inclusive society, not just for Syrian refugees, but for all Canadians, including the most vulnerable and marginalized among us.

    The challenge of integrating refugees is the latest chapter in the continuing experiment we call Canada. At its heart, it’s an experiment in building an inclusive society of opportunity for diverse peoples. Consider our country’s roots. John Ralston Saul calls Canada a “Métis civilization.” Our national character is inclusive and mixed – and strong as a result. In their book Why Nations Fail, Daron Acemoglu and James Robinson argue that politically and economically inclusive societies thrive, while exclusive and extractive societies fail.

    But perhaps the most compelling argument I’ve heard of late for rededicating ourselves to building a society of inclusive opportunity comes from a parent in Syria, whose son recently received a refugee scholarship to study at the University of Alberta. In thanks, the parent wrote: “You have pulled my son out of the hell, where he has been taking daily a high dose of risk, tension, worries and sorrow. The wheels of the war have crushed everything; the human and the stones, but not the heart and soul and never the will and hope.”

    So to answer the question “How does Canada build a diverse and inclusive society?” I remember “why” we do it: Because it’s both the right and the smart thing to do. Now together, let’s reimagine how.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...ticle27535253/

    Canada is really leading the way. Imagine that the U.S. is fighting over taking 10K refugees while Canada will be taking in 25K in just the next few months.
    While much of the world is giving in to racism, fear and xenophobia, Canada is taking another route.

    So wonderful to see. Canadians are proud of this and they should be.

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    25k is nothing for a country that has the population of canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilla Blomma View Post
    25k is nothing for a country that has the population of canada.
    It's 25k in the next few months and many more as the infrastructure ramps up. It's not cheap to fly people across the Atlantic. Plus it's a challenge to get things in place after the Conservatives policies.

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    There's more to take Canada, step it up guy.
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    I just think you retards are starting to get ridiculous with your childish language.

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    The thing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth is the profiling due to this terrorism panic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    It's 25k in the next few months
    Cool story, Sweden's getting like 1000 per day and is way smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    The thing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth is the profiling due to this terrorism panic.
    Yes. That is a real shame. At least some families are starting to get help and being flown in now.

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    I have an idea! Let's help Syrians, but screw the other parts of the world. Because only Syrians matters.

    Also, lets disregard any security issue this could cause. Or Society integration.

    Let them all in!

    Ok in all seriousness, this is great that we're letting 25 000 Syrians here, but the reality is that we're not ready for this. We're having a lot of internal issues that needs to be fixed for our own people before adding another group. If we go too fast and too strong, we are going to have problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom4u2 View Post
    I have an idea! Let's help Syrians, but screw the other parts of the world. Because only Syrians matters.

    Also, lets disregard any security issue this could cause. Or Society integration.

    Let them all in!

    Ok in all seriousness, this is great that we're letting 25 000 Syrians here, but the reality is that we're not ready for this. We're having a lot of internal issues that needs to be fixed for our own people before adding another group. If we go too fast and too strong, we are going to have problems.
    There are no security issues in the case of refugees being accepted into Canada.
    Please stop the lies and misinformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...ticle27535253/

    Canada is really leading the way. Imagine that the U.S. is fighting over taking 10K refugees while Canada will be taking in 25K in just the next few months.
    While much of the world is giving in to racism, fear and xenophobia, Canada is taking another route.

    So wonderful to see. Canadians are proud of this and they should be.
    You're the nation that's looking to exclude single adult males refugees. Those are the people that are fleeing being forced into fighting the war.

    Canada cherry-picked the "safe" refugees, while telling a large % of the people most in danger (combat age males) to fuck off.

    Canada's shit stinks as much as everyone elses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilla Blomma View Post
    Cool story, Sweden's getting like 1000 per day and is way smaller.
    Lebanon has a lower population and much more refugees. If anything Sweden should be trying to convince other EU states and the U.S. to start taking their fair share instead of so many flooding into only Sweden and Germany.

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    Good for Canada. Afaik their attitude towards refugees has been the attitude of all the well-off western countries in this crisis. Unfortunately, a lot of them are just not able to take any more. If Canada ever opens as much, they'll reach that point too.

    I think it will work out for them though. They can control the inflow a lot better and don't have the same ambitions as for example Germany or Sweden did.

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    They can legally immigrate all they want. Anyone who bad mouths a country for not wanting to take in tens of thousands of people is just being naive. Refusing to let them in has absolutely NOTHING to do with racism and xenophobia, and everything to do with having to fill the needs for these tens of thousands of people out of nowhere AND the fact that terrorists are knowingly sneaking into countries and committing terrorist acts within them by hiding within these groups of refugees.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    The thing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth is the profiling due to this terrorism panic.
    It's not a terrorism panic, it's terrorism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    There are no security issues in the case of refugees being accepted into Canada.
    Please stop the lies and misinformation.
    Do you not pay attention to the other hemisphere at all or did you perhaps just miss the Paris terrorist attacks that contained shooters that snuck in with the refugees?
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    There is zero point in calling them refugees now when we all know those Syrians are not going back over the water when the bombing stops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilla Blomma View Post
    Cool story, Sweden's getting like 1000 per day and is way smaller.

    Really?

    Sweden is experiencing a crisis with trying to accommodate refugees- according to the National Post, their government wants to limit intake of refugees to 10,000 per year.

    Sweden has roughly a population one third of Canada. That puts Canada's 25,000+ on par with Sweden's annual goals.

    Now I realize Sweden has had a huge influx over the past couple of years- but in a few months, I'm sure they can ramp up that 10,000 per year limit right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinner981 View Post
    It's not a terrorism panic, it's terrorism.
    No its a panic. Its so negligible that one could be a terrorist its not even worth mentioning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    There are no security issues in the case of refugees being accepted into Canada.
    Please stop the lies and misinformation.
    I live there and I know what I'm speaking of.

    In Quebec, people are fighting to not get the refugee centers close to their homes. What do you think this will result in when it happen?

    Also, only a third will be taken care of by the government. The other two third will be taken by another party, which is mainly consisting in religious societies.

    This plan is already dysfunctional at its core. What happen when the spoken language comes into play? Or the school? The children will receive education outside of their religious boundaries, which will affect their core values. That's without taking into account that these people have no jobs. The government will take care for a while, but then they're on their own.

    So I ask you, what plan do we have to take care of them? None.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidFwuff View Post
    Really?

    Sweden is experiencing a crisis with trying to accommodate refugees- according to the National Post, their government wants to limit intake of refugees to 10,000 per year.

    Sweden has roughly a population one third of Canada. That puts Canada's 25,000+ on par with Sweden's annual goals.

    Now I realize Sweden has had a huge influx over the past couple of years- but in a few months, I'm sure they can ramp up that 10,000 per year limit right?
    There is no limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    No its a panic. Its so negligible that one could be a terrorist its not even worth mentioning
    How many terrorists did did it take to kill those 120 something people in Paris? Wasn't it like 6? How many terrorists did it take to bring down the world trade center? Somewhere between 9 and 10 wasn't it?

    Ya, let's just hope and feel like none of them will be terrorists, that the terrorists just made the active decision to not sneak in any more suicide shooters/bombers within groups of refugees, since they already used that trick once and it worked and they don't like being a one trick pony.
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    If 25k refugees in a few months, for a country the size of Canada, means that it is a caring society, then Sweden as an example has to be considered to be on a Mother Teresa/Nobel Peace Prize-level. Don't really see how Canada in any shape or form is "leading the way".

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