Firelands Raid Changes Incoming

Has anyone done the quote yet? I'll do it just in case... TOO SOON! Anyways, i dont disagree with it tbh. who cares after the main challenge of realm / world firsts are over its all jsut a grind for gear and to see new bosses. I'd prefer it if they were leaving the nerf til a few more weeks from now as i'd like to get some more attmpts on rag before the nerf but it seems like we're just gonna have to faceroll it.

Originally Posted by Kryos

one week left to kill 10man HM Ragnaros without easymode - i don't think we will make it

Seems like you're a little late seeing how they already nerfed his health.

Originally Posted by Lellybaby

As someone that came in late to this tier and managed to kill normal Ragnaros for the first time on Sunday (We only raid 2 nights a week) I welcome the change.

I've been playing this game for just under 7 years now and the only tier that I didn't really get to experience was the tier 11 heroic stuff. I like that they are nerfing the content because it allows more people to either progress further with their raiding or even get more people into raiding. (Killing more bosses = enjoyment)

As I'm sure you have seen 25man guilds have been mostly suffering greatly in Cata raiding because 1) 10mans are easier and 2) 25mans are harder to organise/recruit for because of some servers small raiding player pools. If this convinces more people to raid then I'm all for it.

And honestly to all those complaining, learn to have a bit more fun.

There is another reason too. Blizzard have probably tuned Deathwing's lair for a raid that is in full 391's. If people haven't been farming 6/7 HM for at least 4-5 weeks then they wont be geared enough.

So, 378 gear isn't enough to bring down 372 content? Sad.

And because of that, my game will be changed.

Really hard to understand the "doesn't matter to you what others do" concept...

It does matter to everyone if paragon kill the boss faster, if others do /dance instead of fighting the boss, etc. Because they'll say what I will be able to do or not.

Always told that those nerfs to heroics all the way back at the begining of Cata would ruin the rest... you push bad trough it, they won't stop there, they'll want more stuff nerfed... you'll nerf normal modes, they'll unlock heroic and demand it... and here we are.

Good thing is that I guess we'll see this game's end sooner and we can move on to other stuff.

As the GM of a guild who is actually having a hard time on Rag normal. We just can't seem to get things to click on him....we made it through other content relatively smoothly, but Rag has been a brick wall for us. Anyway, as the GM of such a guild...I am very disappointed in this change so soon. We have made some very good progress the last few nights, and if for some reason we don't get our stuff together this week and down him, then the sense of accomplishment will be completely destroyed. Thumbs down to this change so soon

Last week: "We don't care if you nerf content, just let us KNOW about the nerfs before hand!"

This week: "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? FU BLIZZ FOR NERFING SHIT AND LETTING US KNOW ABOUT IT!!!!"

Okay... I'm one to think that some of the encounters were a bit over tuned, but the tier 11 20% nerf is over kill for several of the bosses, Shannox especially.I really wish they'd actually do their jobs and find a happy tuning rather than just hammering everything.

I'm happy about this one

This is one of those things that makes me glad I quit the game a long time ago (yet still check up on the website here, I think I have too much free time). Nerfing the encounters before 4.3 is even on the PTR (maybe it'll be up up around the time these nerfs go live, but still)? What a joke. They might as well release every encounter in the future with everything nerfed automatically, seeing how it took them less time than ever to tone down content this time around. It just seems way too soon to go and nerf encounters. 4.2 isn't even 3 months old. I'm sure people are glad the next patch seems close to hitting the PTR, but it's gotta suck to have content that is less than 3 months old nerfed to PuG status.

Why soooo much QQ. The top end guilds got to down 7/7hm firelands before this nerf so they retain those bragging rights. While players who cannot or do not raid at the hardcore level will be able to push through more content than they would have pre-nerf. Its a win-win, if you're already farming H Rag then this nerf will make your farm that much easier, if you are not farming heroic rag then maybe now you have a shot at downing a few more hard modes than you did before.

blizz make up your mind and stick with it for once either make it easy from the start or hard from the start stop faffing with all your raids because people cant do them!

if a player is bad dont make content easier for them the bosses arent impossible they have a mechanic if you follow it properly you will win if you cant do that go practice if you still cant do that go else where!

So heroic content is supposed to last two months now.

And the Wrath babies win again........

Guys, you're forgetting the hardcore bleeding edge raiders are the MINORITY of this game.The big bucks don't come from the MINORITY's

I'd like it if they would leave the heroic modes as they where. Normal nerf is fine, even tho they are not that hard to begin with. Instead of waiting for a new patch they nerf it early. Is a bit sad, them forcing it upon us. As the total (normalmode/hcmode) base. They kept a close eye they say. But they never asked for opinions.

Originally Posted by Ragedaug

Considering only 2% of raiding guilds ever finished T11, it would make the point that content is being released either a) too fast, or b) too hard for the remaining 98% of raiders. I for one, would not be interested in 12+ month patches, so that being said, I don't mind gradual nerfs, à la ICC.If you couldn't finish the content in almost 3 months, you have to come to grips with the fact that you may not be as good as you think you are. I would wager that 99% of the folks in this thread complaining about how "easy" raiding is or will be, still haven't been able to finish the last tier. Come to grips with your limitations and accept the help Blizzard is giving you in being able to finish Firelands.

So, after 2 months waiting for my token to drop, to finish my 4pc, instead of undergeared, I'm considered bad player. 2 players in my raid with conection problems for a month are bad players instead of players with conection problems, lol. Raiding only 2 nights, 3hour each or less, improving strats and gear to go beyond 3/7 heroic means bad player that deserves nerfs to HEROIC content.

Instead of "gripping this fact" by grabbing better gear in 4.3 and auto-nerf the content because of it, they should nerf it months before? Lol, nice.

I accept a limitation after a full cycle, with the game offering better gear that transform former content in easy content, not by someone else killing it 1st and another "someone else" determining it before ending the cycle.

Originally Posted by prankstar

ah yes total biscuit the tool who complains about nerfs but has never been in a high end progression guild. and a player that thinks he knows everything about the mage class but in reality only copies what more skilled players have said

He raided in a guild that killed c'thun. Took months on that single boss. A lot longer than what it took ragnaros heroic. Also, hes been playing wow since its launch. His "complaining" is actually feedback that he is trying to give to blizz and everyone else to help them understand what the game is becoming.

No, no, no, no, no, no and no. Heroic content is optional and should be left alone. Nerf the normals.

Originally Posted by prwraith

Guys, you're forgetting the hardcore bleeding edge raiders are the MINORITY of this game.The big bucks don't come from the MINORITY's

And heroic modes were suposed to "catter to a minority".

Doesn't look like...

Guess they really need the "farmville players".

Glad they gave us a date, wish they would make it an ICC escq buff that is turn on/offable.

Originally Posted by Gorno

And the Wrath babies win again........

idd,

@matters it sucks as i spent to much time getting gear and helping to gear my guild team, i dont find it fair thta these qq'ing casual fags get the same gear as me going into the next patch