Space travelling Space Goats are way worse imo.
Space travelling Space Goats are way worse imo.
The biggest tumor on this setting are the players.
#boycottchina
But the Outland ones are boring, and unremarkable. They're all the same. They're basically just orcs, but red. Same wolf-riding, noble-savage stuff as the greenskins, same everything. Unless we're talking fel orcs, which I would be all for, but we're not.
Iron Horde is rad and has a diverse range of appearances that would be great to have as playable options. I'm not in a hurry to revisit the dumber time-travel elements of WoD, but I would love to have the Iron Horde back, as part of Horde Prime.
There is justification for most WoD appearances to be available to a hypothetical Mag'har allied race. Garadar alone had Frostwolf, Warsong, Bleeding Hollow and Blackrock Orcs.
If it's the tech you want (Which judging by the heritage armor and mount, we aren't getting), that could easily be explained away by Gallywix et al. repurposing Blackfuse technology that was just left in and around Orgrimmar.
Agreed. After the crap Blizzard pulled out of their asses with Void Elves, justifying Mag'har would be child play.
The only reason for why they went the AU route it can only be that they really want to keep AU Draenor somewhat relevant and somehow tied with some storyline they have in mind. That's really the only one thing Mag'har don't have, simply because Outland is basically a shadow of the old Draenor.
Calling the WoD Orcs "Mag'har" is basically shitting on the whole TBC storyline. The Mag'har were the uncorrupted refugees who refused to drink demon blood and partake in the invasion. They were hunted and harassed by their corrupted kin. This name loses its meaning entirely when you use it on the AU Orcs who only drank the blood at the end (and only the defeated remnants of the Iron Horde).
I'm disliking this Allied Race idea more and more.
When we looked at the relics of the precursors, we saw the height civilization can attain.
When we looked at their ruins, we marked the danger of that height.
- Keeper Annals
We get it. You hate WoD. We all do.
That doesn't mean Draenor orcs are bad. WoD wasn't bad because of the story -- while it was definitely lacking, Draenor orcs are still fairly interesting and they are adequate as a playable race. It's fine, really.
WoD happened and nothing is going to change that. If it upsets you that badly, perhaps you should have quit before WoD came out (or shortly after, whatever) and never came back. Because WoD, while Blizzard tends to avoid using it as a reference, still happened and they will occasionally draw stories and content from it. You need to come to terms with this.
They are still mag'har. Uncorrupted. Grommash's Iron Horde were a bunch of savages, but they never turned to Fel.
The only thing about this new allied race that could significantly upset me is if they are able to be warlocks. (Though if Grommash is their leader and his crimes are totally ignored, I'd probably be a little salty about that on principle.)
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Well, we did. It was alternate universe, but we still went back in time.
Unlike some other people I don't hate WoD. I think it was a meh expansion but the raids were well done, I also enjoyed Ashran in the beginning.
And disliking what Blizzard does with the story does not mean we dislike everything about WoW and should quit over it. Obviously Blizzard can do whatever the hell they want, doesn't prevent people from calling out stupid decisions like this one.
You don't understand. The "uncorrupted" meaning in Mag'har carries a very specific context, and that is taking the very unpopular decision of not drinking the blood and choosing to be hunted and ostracized by the overwhelming majority of orcs who drank it. Calling the AU Orcs Mag'har not only destroys that meaning, it completely ignores the suffering the real Mag'har Orcs went through in Outland.
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When we looked at the relics of the precursors, we saw the height civilization can attain.
When we looked at their ruins, we marked the danger of that height.
- Keeper Annals
No, it does not. I'm really satisfied with draenorcs joining the Horde. Gonna race change my (green) orc shaman immediately when they become available. Myname "Of the frostwolves"It cheapens the entire orc story arc.
they actually are the refugees with the red pox, ( or other who flee or get hidden there) who stayed in quarentene, they were not haunted and harassed by the corrupted kin, only if you talk about the fel orcs, and they would kill anyone regardless.
Of course they are not using the name on the AU orcs who drink the blood, but they re using on the orcs who didn't, like grom, and thats why they are also maghar.
Lol I like how there's people actually trying to justify the whole alternate universe orcs still as if it was a well thought-out plot.
The whole purpose of WoD was to throw more orcs at us because Blizzard have some kind of hardon for them.
I'm really not sure where they'd want to go with AU Draenor. I know they're burning plotlines at absurd rates ("What's under Tirisfal?" Neptulon, Koltira, Undermine, Azshara [lol]), but do they really think they can pitch AU Ogre supercontinent as an expansion or something?
Not really considering that MU Mag'har offer nearly everything AU WoD Orcs do, without being festering trash.
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Yeah, an expansion about "Killing Orcish heroes" after finishing an expansion that saw us "killing Orcish heroes" in its latter half sure means Blizzard has an Orc hardon. That's why we've barely seen any Orcs in the Horde storyline recently!