Newly Sworn in Officers Shoots Unarmed Teen to Death

[the game]

Themius, that statement would mean something if you didn't regularly complain about how tge cops in America are racist. You built a reputation that only Bapestar can match.

and elba..

[Themius]

Themius, that statement would mean something if you didn't regularly complain about how tge cops in America are racist. You built a reputation that only Bapestar can match.

Cop does something.

Perp is white

Themius notes issues with cops.

Cop does something.

Perp is black.

Themius notes issues with cops

Themius now said to only be against cops because perp isn’t white.

My stance on cops doesn’t change.

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It wasn't an accusation levelled at you. This is broad spectrum, every time a black person dies via cop, it almost doesn't matter whether it was justified. If it makes the news that cop is demonized and judged as guilty instantly. It's almost as bad as the sexual harrassments claims. If it makes the news the guy is guilty, regardless of the facts.

That's my problem with this and everything else. It just doesn't matter anymore, he'll end up being guilty, and if he gets found not guilty, there will be a riot.

Are we forgetting the cop who shot the guy in hotel?

[Ealyssa]

It is actually if certain criteria are met. They had been met if the people in the car were armed.

Bearing a gun is actually an american right, even if black.

Being armed is NOT a crime

[Dextroden]

Cop does something.

Perp is white

Themius notes issues with cops.

Cop does something.

Perp is black.

Themius notes issues with cops

Themius now said to only be against cops because perp isn’t white.

My stance on cops doesn’t change.

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Are we forgetting the cop who shot the guy in hotel?

Are we forgetting "Hands up, don't shoot"?

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Bearing a gun is actually an american right, even if black.

Being armed is NOT a crime

Being a part of a drive by shooting is, however.

[prwraith]

Bearing a gun is actually an american right, even if black.

Being armed is NOT a crime

Being armed, while fleeing a cop legally detaining you, whilst being a suspect of a previous shooting, is a litany of crimes. Sorry i shorthanded the original. I could care less if he's black or white, there's a list of crimes in order.

[Deleted]

Why is any questioning of police force considered hating cops? Do you guys just not want there to be any questions of cop actions. Just full blown authoritarianism

That is not what I am saying at all. You can criticize the police as much as you want. But what you are doing is not criticizing, you are clearely trying to incite hatred towards the police.

[Lollis]

Being armed, while fleeing a cop legally detaining you, whilst being a suspect of a previous shooting, is a litany of crimes. Sorry i shorthanded the original. I could care less if he's black or white, there's a list of crimes in order.

Suspects are not criminals, they are suspects.

The job of the police is to bring suspects to court, it is not their job to skip the court and be judge, jury, and executioner.

[Deleted]

Suspects are not criminals, they are suspects.

The job of the police is to bring suspects to court, it is not their job to skip the court and be judge, jury, and executioner.

This is a dumb argument. A shooter during his shootingspree is still only a suspect. Is the police not supposed to shoot him?

I am going to tell you something that the educational system has clearely failed to teach you, so listen up closely: the state has the monopoly on violence, and the police has all the right in the world to use as much violence as needed, in order to do their job. If you resist or fight them, then they actually do become judge, jury and executioner.

[Lollis]

This is a dumb argument. A shooter during his shootingspree is still only a suspect. Is the police not supposed to shoot him?

I am going to tell you something that the educational system has clearely failed to teach you, so listen up closely: the state has the monopoly on violence, and the police has all the right in the world to use it, in order to do their job. If you resist or fight them, then they actually do become judge, jury and executioner.

He wasn't in the middle of a shootingspree. He was running away, unarmed.

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He wasn't in the middle of a shootingspree. He was running away, unarmed.

Yeah, he was fleeing straight after shooting someone. That makes him a threat to society at large, and that fact demands that the police stop him with any means necessary, including killing him if he does not stop.

[Noradin]

Are we forgetting "Hands up, don't shoot"?

That one will get you shot for suspicious behaviour...

[Lollis]

Yeah, he was fleeing straight after shooting someone. That makes him a threat to society at large, and that fact demands that the police stop him with any means necessary, including killing him if he does not stop.

Unarmed suspect, who ran from a car that was suspected to have been involved in a shooting earlier.

[Ealyssa]

That makes him a threat to society at large.

Nice narrative you've got in your head. But nope, it doesn't.

[muto]

I think it's wrong he got shot being unarmed, but I think it's even more pathetic to start protests and block streets over it. That's just going to piss people off more and make them less likely to join their cause.

[triplesdsu]

That doesn’t make him a threat to everyone else when running unless he was reaching which he wasn’t

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My focus really is that driver they let go.

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Actually no. Which is why he’s in leave while an investigation happens

All we can do about that is guess at this point. I can offer some educated guesses based on my own training and experience.
1). He's a juvenile and was arrested on a cite. As stupid as it seems, in today's current age of coddling to criminals, juveniles can do some serious stuff and get released on a citation pending the juvenile justice process.
2) The victim was uncooperative and/or unwilling/unable to identify the suspects. As such he was released pending further investigation which unlike TV takes longer than half an hour (ballistics, cell records, etc).
3) He was cooperative and offered good statements and the cops cut him some slack as a result, particularly since his friend was shot. I've seen similar stuff before. Kids committed crimes, got in a wreck fleeing. some died and they went easy on the survivors due to the traumatic experience.
4) They let him go to do surveillance to see if he can lead them to the outstanding suspect.
5) He ended up in the car/driving after the shooting. This seems a bit weird, but its a possibility.
6) Despite the guns and matching vehicle damage, it wasnt the right car and these werent the driveby shooters.

Again those are guesses and there could be another reason. However, at the end of the day, it would really be irrelevant to justifying the shooting. Hindsight isnt a factor, only what the cops knew and what was reasonable to believe at the time of shooting. The driver is a shining example of how cooperation and not running/fighting is the best way to handle being stopped by the police.

[Orange Joe]

I don't think half the us population is driving around armed while being a suspect of a previous shooting though

how about we keep that goalpost at what you originally said about them just being armed. Half of the US is legally armed.

[prwraith]

Nice narrative you've got in your head. But nope, it doesn't.

I think a court would disagree. Someone who's fleeing a shooting, that they potentially participated in, whilst in a car full of armed people.

That absolutely sounds like a threat to society.

[Noradin]

Being a part of a drive by shooting is, however.

Not neccessarily, you can be part without being at fault, you do not even need to take part, just happening upon it can be enough.

[prwraith]

how about we keep that goalpost at what you originally said about them just being armed. Half of the US is legally armed.

What you call moving goal posts, is what I call writing out what should have been obvious based off the OP. I didn't realize I had to write everything out all the time.

[Orange Joe]

What you call moving goal posts, is what I call writing out what should have been obvious based off the OP. I didn't realize I had to write everything out all the time.

Yeah no. Bullshit.