Remember that the feedback you see on forums and reddit are in most cases from a vocal minority. Those tend to always be negative. People often share their negative opinions about something while the positive might not be as frequent. That's standard with all types of online feedback sources.
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Ok, but like I said above, don't you think he could be referring to the people he plays the game with? His employees? his friends? Why does it make you so upset?
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Also, Blizzard need constructive criticism feedback, that is the whole point of the alpha/beta and trying to make the best product they can.
Sadly, this is where societies are heading right now, where dissenting opinions cannot be tolerated. The whole situation gets bogged down in people's minds that they likely don't even view the full content (similar to just reacting to headlines instead of reading articles and doing your own research), and their sense of entitlement/ego/what have you must suppress or get rid of anything that is contrary to their own opinions. I think the mentality is summed up with the tongue-in-cheek saying of "Don't let facts get in the way of your opinions!" While everything is opinion-based when it comes to the topic at hand, the complaint offered is that YTer's live in their own echo chamber, yet their solution is to listen to another person's echo chamber? Obvious solution (at least it used to be obvious) is to let all opinions come out in the open and decide for yourself. If anyone surrounds themselves with like-minded people all the time and ignores/censors/hides dissenting opinions, they're never going to grow and get stuck in their own heads eventually.
About the specific video that Bellular put out about Torghast, I went and watched it all the way through... and it completely refutes the OP's complaints if you watch all the way through. Towards the end, he pulls out his phone and reads off the pro's and con's of the new affix system. One of the pro's was (paraphrasing) that the affixes give you a sense of being somewhere you shouldn't by having that constant pressure. Throughout the video he even says that this high-paced, psuedo-timed version of Torghast may be what some people want and enjoy. It's reiterated that this is just his opinion, nothing more. If it was truly an echo chamber, their solutions would probably be uniform about what should be done across all the YTer's... and they aren't.
If there is a complaint to be had, it should be the wishy-washy messaging that comes out about their goals and statements. The blue posts not only conflict with their messaging around the affix changes to Torghast and their intent/fucntion, but the alpha is different, too. The last couple years of testing, blue posts, and implementation of features leads me to believe that there's a really high likelihood of an echo chamber mentality within Blizzard independent of what you might thing of YTer's. Even the very recent changes about the corruption system and the new implementation seems extremely short-sighted, and Blizz is already backtracking implementation because of problems that seem very apparent to the average person that plays the game... yet somehow no one at Blizz saw this coming?
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Thank you, and i agree with you in fact ive been bringing this up as much as ican
i really hate how alpha so far feels "influencer" driven, and ONLY those influencers are in the alpha its like they have a direct line to decide how the game is made and the rest of us get zero input.
So, is it true or not this youtubers think they speak for the majority when having absolutely zero information?
Because thats whats being discussed.
But you insist in making it all about me and using personal attacks on me.
Do you really want to keep talking about me?
Go ahead dude. Lets make this entire thread about me. Lets do it. Cant wait for your next reply about my person!
Don't worry, he got called out on it big time with his disaster of a warlock overview video. It's so clear he's no longer taking full responsibility for researching the content in his videos.
Also, I agree with the OP wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, with the limited alpha testers pool from the community, biased feedback like that is all blizz is gonna receive until the beta phase begins. God forbid anybody outside the YT/Twitch scene or outside the hardcore gamer scene who happens to enjoy the game and would also like to take part in and provide alpha feedback to offer differing opinions.
I see the lack of changes to DK design on alpha and I weep on the inside every time I hear preach heaving praise on it on the alpha in his videos, when it clearly plays just the same as it does now, minus the essences and azerite.
I agree mostly due to the point that I despise Idiots speaking for me when it comes to game "fixes".
Something he apologised prefusely for, said he got it wrong, and made a new video correcting the mistakes.
I mean I just want to add this for balance here, I was disappointed with that too, but lets give credit where credit is due. He admitted he got it wrong, was very apologetic about it, and made a new one correcting it. I think you missed that off your post?
What is being discussed is that this youtubers speak as FACTS
And
Speak for the majority or the "many people"
This is plain and simply wrong as they have zero information to make such claims
There is nothing wrong in having an opinion BUT you CANT parse it as a fact and speak for others, which is what is being discussed this youtubers are doing.
If you watched the video i quoted, he:
1) Speaks for the many
2) immediately says Blizzard has a "lack of emotional inteligence" and immediately after says "many people" again
How the hell does he know he speaks for this "many people"? Thats the question.